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Premotajte na 2:50 vidi se AMD Zen Komp. posle prikazuju i serversku MB.

 

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Hmm pa i za katastrofu zvanu Buldožer je samo onaj Obrovski ako se dobro sećam govorio da je težak fail, i skoro niko mu nije verovao. Ovi gore rezultati su možda i veoma blizu istine. Naravno ne očekujem fail kao sa Buldožerom, ali ako je ovako onda je dosta loše kao što kaže drfedja..
 

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Ja sam imao Phenom X6 1055T pa uzeo FX 8350, prodo ga pre oko 1 mesec mozda cak i 2 I opet stavio 1055T realno ne vidim razliku u normalnom radu, za redering se vidi jedino...

Iskreno se nadam da nece Zen da ispadne krs posto bi to zakopalo do kraja AMD.
 

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Ne osecas razliku jer su Phenom II X6 prilicno snazni procesori. Buldozeri nisu fail jer ste za razuman novac dobijali odlican CPU u realnom radu. Ja sam prilicno ubedjen da ni ZEN u sintetickim testovima nece imati rezultate kao Intel, ili ce bar u nekim oblastima Intel imati bolji skor. Jer ako ZEN bude kao intel ili nesto brzi, budite sigurni da ce biti dosta skuplji nego sto je danas Buldozer.
 

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Net bi brujao o lošim rezultatima, ne? Čudno je da su ostali "skriveni".
Ja se iskreno nadam da nisu onakvi, jer kao takvi su teško njesra. Pa klok za klok su pojedini mobilni procesori osetno brži, npr. Cortex A72. Ispada da je ovaj Zen negde kao Cortex A57 u single threadu. Smešno ili fake.
 
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Hm, bilo bi dobro da je istinito:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5cffyt/newish_details_about_zen/

Performance is particularly strong at this point vs. INTEL's latest offerings. Single thread performance is matching Haswell-E and of course multi-threading performance as well. Tests that are memory bandwidth dependent may go to the INTEL platform simply as a result of having more memory channels, but I can't confirm that right now and have no info on that. The important thing here is that the 16Thread/8-Core CPU is minimum 5960X performance if not better actually. (Based on Cinebench R15) with the error fix disabled.
 

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Lepo..vidimo klokove 3.2/3.5 GHz, ali i dalje ne vidimo performanse.
 

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Sam je postavio neke benchmarkove na prošloj strani. Naravno ništa od ovoga još nije oficijalno
 

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Ono za AOTS?

 

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Aha Cinebench. Pa ništa se tu ne vidi precizno, izuzev da će varijanta sa 95W 8 jezgara biti negde u rangu sa 5960X na nekim sličnim klokovima. Jedino mi nije jasno u ovoj tabeli na koju foru je Broadwell E 6900K sa 8 jezgara na 3,2 GHz onoliko brži od Haswell-a E sa istim brojem jezgara na 3 GHz. Ovde je razlika 1635 vs 1321...to je 24%!!! Ta dva jezgra su gotovo identična, Broadwell E je Haswell E u 14nm.

Čak i da je ovo tačno ne vidimo još uvek single thread.
 

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6900k ima bolji IMC, a ram zna da utice na cb. Uz to cache je dosta brzi na BW-E, na istim klokovima i bandwidth je dosta veci, iako ni ne radi OC socket.

Na stranu sve to, i meni je 24% prilicno neverovatno.
 

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6900k ima bolji IMC, a ram zna da utice na cb. Uz to cache je dosta brzi na BW-E, na istim klokovima i bandwidth je dosta veci, iako ni ne radi OC socket.

Na stranu sve to, i meni je 24% prilicno neverovatno.
Može da utiče RAM minimalno na CB...tipa do 5%, ali nikako 24%.
 

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To i ja kazem :) donekle bolje perf mogu da progutam zbog cache-a i ram-a, ali nikako preko 10% sveukupno.
 

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CB ne zavisi uopste od rama ako mene pitate. :) Znaci mizerno, mizerno. Pogledajte rezultate na hwbotu za CB i videcete da niko nije zatezao ram. Pogotovu na X99 platformi, gde cak ni u XTU ram ne donosi nista.

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PSU:
Corsair SFX 600W Platinum
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G903 +CM QuickFire XT
Internet:
SBB 300/12
OS & Browser:
Win 10 | Waterfox/Chrome
1257 CB score sa ramom na 2133 i cache na def.
1307 CB score sa ramom na 2666 (xmp obican) i cache def
1346 CB score sa ramom na 2666 + cache na 4.0.

Nesto manje od 10% razlike. S tim da BW-E nije toliko napredniji kada se gleda OC vs OC, ali je IPC sam po sebi malo bolji pa izvlaci par %.
 
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