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drfedja

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I ovo su procesori bez L3 kesa, sledeci FX bi trebalo da bude jos malo bolji...
Da, to sigurno, barem 5-10% bi trebalo da bude razlike, još ako malo optimizuju neke stvari, možda bude još koji procenat.
 

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Izgleda ce da se ponovi prica sa Phenomom kecom i dvojkom... :)
 

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Daj bre da ovi novi amd budu brzi kao SB :) Da lepo bocnem proc. za 150e i miran sam jos 3 godine.
 

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I sve to do 100W.... Nice. :)
 

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Ako mogu da uteraju 4 jezgra i grafiku u 65W, mogu valjda i 6 jezgara bez grafike u isto tolko W u novom FX6 :)

Ajde AMD, napravi Vishere vredne kupovine !
 

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Ja bih licno voleo da vidim 4 modula, t.j. 8 jezgara u 100W, 20% veci IPC od BD-a i 5 GHz stabilnog overkloka, 24/7 sa normalnim coolerom od nekih 30-35 evra.
 

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Takav je trebao BD da bude :D Kapiram da bi taj proc. od 150e bip apsolutni best buy, na 5Ghz brz kao i5 2500k na 4,5Ghz recimo.
 

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Cisto sumnjam da ce kostati 150 evra sa 8 jezgara, s obzirom na cenovnu politiku koju gura AMD u poslednje vreme. Realno gledano, procesori su nikad skuplji ako gledas taj neki mainstream koji se kupuje.
S druge strane potreba za jakim multicore procesorom nije bas velika. Drugim recima, CPU od 100 evra sa 2 jezgra + HT ili 4 jezgra iz AMD-a zavrsava posao sasvim ok.
 

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Hoce ostat AM3+, socket za Pilledriver?

Znachi sad npr. pazarim plochu sa 990 chipsetom, bocnem mog phenoma unutra i kad izadje Pilledriver ubacim njega? :)
 

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Da, PD će ići u AM3+.
 

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Onda se mozda i zadrzim na AMD, do daljnjeg. Iskreno razmatrao sam prelazak na Sandy Bridge, al treba dosta para za dobar CPU i MoBo. Ovako mogu prvo pazarit plocu, a kasnije CPU. Samo da Pilledriver bude dobar :)
 

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^Ja se opremio sto se ploce tice :D
Sad cekamo Pile, tj Visheru.

Najavili su za Q3 ove godine.
 
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FX4 sa 125W TDP. Nesto mi to sumnjivo...
 

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Da, to je bzvz, po tome je onda FX8350 170-180W TDP?! :D.
 

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Fudo lupa gluposti. Prvo su napisali da ce na Vishera platformi biti tri nova Zambezi 32nm procesora. Prvo Vishera je naslednik Zambezija, a procesor je baziran na Piledriver jezgru, dok je Zambezi baziran na Bulldozer-u.
Drugo, 8-core ce biti 125W, nadam se zaista 125W, a ne 140-150 koliko je tukao Zambezi.
 

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Mene brine kako li ce taj resonant clock mesh uticati na overklok, tj da isti zbog optimizacija potrosnje ne bude redukovan, kako sumnjaju po forumima vec.
Fedja, poznajuci nacin na koji ce rcm funkcionisati, sta mislis da li realno da oc margina kod PDa bude niza zbog ovog?
 

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Koliko znam, clock mesh se koristi radi povećanja frekvencija na kojima CPU radi. Npr. Prescott je koristio nešto slično, što je jedan od razloga enormne potrošnje koju je imao. Klok generatori raspoređeni po različitim delovima jezgra u vidu mreže čime se manje gubi na kvalitetu klok signala, smanjuje se "jitter", jer ne dolazi do gubitaka u raspodeli klok signala. Ne znam kako misle da sa ovime smanje potrošnju, osim ako ovo ne prilagode niskoj potrošnji.

AMD received Cyclos technology licensing
Recently, AMD ISSCC meeting Cyclos Semiconductor Corporation today announced its next-generation CPU processor is the latter "Resonant Clock Mesh (resonant clock network) technology licensing, the technology will enhance the" Piledriver "(hammers) APU, including the processor performance and lower power consumption.
Resonant the Clock Mesh uses electronic sensors to create an electronic clock inside the chip, known as the "tank circuit" the Cyclos sensors, and the clock control circuit recycling clock electricity rather than dissipated and wasted in each clock cycle, so you can reduce energy consumption 10 percent or more, this technology has been applied in the field of high-performance chips for many years, the cooperation is also RCM for the first time authorized the commercialization."
Navodno RCM bi trebalo da redukuje potrošnju i da poseduje benefite standardnog clock mesh-a.



S obzirom da se radi o rezonanci, potrošnja bi trebalo da bude normalna ili redukovana zbog toga što se umesto guranja elektrona u klok signal koristi rezonantno svojstvo, a ovo opet troši nultu energiju umesto klasične klok generatorske mreže. Npr, svaki materijal ima svoju frekvenciju rezonance, e sad ne znam kako je ovo izvedeno, s obzirom da je frekvencija procesora varijabilna, npr. idle je 800 MHz, dok je turbo 4200 MHz itd...
 
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^
Da, to se i ocekuje, pocetak Q4 za prodaju. Po meni bice dobro ako tog datuma zaista i budu u prodaji, CPU divizija im obicno zakaze malo :).
 

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Nije baš adekvatno pitanje za ovu temu ali..... Kad se očekuje FM2 socket? "Premijera" je navodno bila zakazana za Jun 2012...
 

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Nista cudno za AMD da kasni kvartal do pola godine.
 

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@fedja.
Koliko GFLOPSa izbacuje 1100T, a koliko nasviran BD (8120 ili 8150) u LINXu?
 
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