AMD Bulldozer [official thread]

[d0minat0r]

CPU je kod nedje

 

[Rapture]

Nije baš tako Radim 3 posla Jedan u FIAT-u, drugi kao prevodilac knjiga sa engleskog, treći kao prodavac računara (mada je prslo dosta)....POred ta tri ponekad napišem neki tekst za D! (mada je to više sportski, mada se za par meseci nakupi za neku komponenticu), odradim neki web sajt, neki programčić za knjigovostvo (Access) itd Bavim se još i odražavanjima računara u jednom franšizerskom lanacu itd... (tu je fina para kad krene) POvrh svega toga sutra čekam rezultate za specijalizaciju Ako još i tu upadnem, biću težak no lifer I ovako mi je vikend zauzet, a još sa tim (ako upadnem, daće Bog) biće baš za***ano, neću moći nikad da završim ovog Withcera 1, koji mi se vuče na kompu već nekoliko zadnjih menjanja platformi

"Samo kuca,poso-poso..." ...pozdrav za Nedju!

 

[Alk0]

Mozda ce da ga frizira pred testove

 

[noodi]

CPU je kod nedje

Amin

 

[drfedja]

Stigo Buldy!

Trosi vise nego Thuban na defaultu u renderu! ;(
WinRAR kida.
Blender malo bolji od 1100T.
CB zna se kakav je...
TrueCrypt je bolji od Sandyja.
Mafia 2 sa softverskom fizikom je blagi uzas. Na oko je sporije od Thubana.
x264 sa XOP instrukcijama je nesto malo brzi nego genericki.

 

[Villy]

Damn!

 

[Iraklije]

evo danasnjih rezultata ali da li su tacni?

http://lenzfire.com/2011/10/amd-bulldozer-fx-8150-vs-phenom-ii-1100t-vs-i7-2600k-video-review-31439/

 

[Kobatz]

Oh well,toliko o tome

 

[d0minat0r]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iv2PBqdTEM&feature=player_detailpage#t=21s

 

[monteboy]

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=cpuamdam3p

230€ za 8150
190€ za 8120

ovo su prve cene bice to jos jeftinije....

 

[PERUN]

za 230eur 8150 mora biti isti ili 90% slican sa intel i7 2600k inace dzabe mi pricamo kad za 250eur covek moze uzeti i7.

 

[d0minat0r]

Po prvim utiscima te cene nemaju veze sa mozgom ne znam kako su ih formirali

 

[peja81]

Evo kao nekih rezova:

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037866932&postcount=153
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037867079&postcount=155

 

[Chabex]

Stigo Buldy!

Trosi vise nego Thuban na defaultu u renderu! ;(
WinRAR kida.
Blender malo bolji od 1100T.
CB zna se kakav je...
TrueCrypt je bolji od Sandyja.
Mafia 2 sa softverskom fizikom je blagi uzas. Na oko je sporije od Thubana.
x264 sa XOP instrukcijama je nesto malo brzi nego genericki.

Hmm da, nema iznenadjenja..na zalost. Nista, cekamo Piledrivera

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=cpuamdam3p

230€ za 8150
190€ za 8120

ovo su prve cene bice to jos jeftinije....

Sigurno ce da idu dole jos, pa nece bas narod navaliti u kupovinu posle detaljnih testova sirom sveta, ocekujem 10-15% manje u zavisnosti od modela.
Ja sam bas zreo za upgrade, ali su me malo zeznuli (kao i pola sveta ), sad se malo vec pitam ima li smisla ulagati u AM3+ platformu, videcu posle detaljnog review-a

edit-video sam neke rezultate kod nekih francuza na brzinu, i tamo nije bila nista toliko lose kao sto se ovih dana pojavljivalo, ajd videcemo

 

[krang]

Sad sam gledao rezove od Francuza(Misko81, drugi link ti ne radi ali moze da se nadje na drugom mestu), i ne deluje nimalo lose, naprotiv. Ono sto mi nikako nije jasno je nekih 10% bolji rezultat od Thubana u Crysis benchmarku.
Ako je IPC nizi od K10, ovo nikako ne bi mogao da bude slucaj, zar ne? Znamo da je igra prakticno singlethreadovana.
Vidim da su i rezultati u sintetici znatno bolji nego oni koje smo gledali ovih dana, cak i 3D Markovi sasvim pristojno izgledaju i rezultati odlicno skaliraju sa OC-om. Fedja?

 

[drfedja]

Definitivno ima bolji FPS u DirectX 11 igrama, kad se nafuraju detalji na max. Rezultati u OpenCL softveru su vrlo zanimljivi. OpenCL sadrzi XOP i FMA optimizacije. Konkretno genericka optimizacija na K10 i na Sandy-ju radi isto, kao i OpenCL, dok na Bulldiju radi znatno bolje. Necu da pricam unapred, videcete.

 

[hsv.stoned]

DrFedjo, obraduj nas sutra !

 

[R_O_N_I_N]

 

[Lukija]

Bravo za AMD

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=831&Itemid=63
http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/amd-fx-8150-6100-bulldozer-zambezi-recenze-test?page=0,3
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/32110-amd-bulldozer-fx-8150/
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-FX8150-8Core-Processor-Review-Bulldozer-Has-Landed/
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/procesory-pameti/22227-amd-bulldozer-procesory-fx-8150-a-8120-v-testu-1-2?start=14
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8150-cpu-overclocking-review-a-bulldozer-for-gamers-/13694-12.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/12/amd-fx-8150-review/1
http://www.bjorn3d.com/articles/AMD_FX-8150_CPU_Bulldozer/2125.html
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/prozessoren/2011/test-amd-bulldozer/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150-processor-review/
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer_fx8150_desktop_performance_review
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/842-1/amd-fx-8150-fx-6100-bulldozer-debarque-am3.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/47155-amd-bulldozer-fx-8150-processor-review.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1285/pg1/amd-fx-8150-black-edition-8-core-processor-vs-core-i7-2600k-review-introduction.html
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8150fx_8120fx_6100_and_fx_4170,1.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1741/1/
http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=102&Itemid=1
http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000220/AMD-FX-8150-Bulldozer-CPU-review#axzz1aKr1ZQF4
http://www.ozeros.com/2011/10/review-amd-bulldozer-fx-8150/
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-FX-8150-Processor-Review-Can-Bulldozer-Unearth-AMD-Victory
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article1376.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/452-amd-bulldozer-fx-cpus/
http://www.techstation.it/hardware/articoli/amd-fx-il-ritorno-al-vertice/introduzione
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043.html
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/amd_fx_8150_bulldozer_cpu_review,1.html

Source:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?275867-AMD-Bulldozer-Thread

 

[peja81]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/12/amd-fx-8150-review/1

AMD FX-8150 Conclusion
Whether or not we’re correct about Bulldozer really being a server and workstation CPU, it’s terribly unsuited to the kinds of software we’re currently using on consumer PCs. This software is still heavily reliant on single-thread performance, and the FX-8150 just doesn’t have that. As such it’s woefully slow in a range of everyday applications.

Worse still, it merely had mediocre performance in well-threaded desktop applications that should have played to the more parallel design of the CPU.

Possibly this situation will change in the future, with Windows 8 said to improve the thread management and AMD pushing compilers that take advantage of the new instructions in the Bulldozer design. The former claim could well happen, and AMD has a decent track record in getting its standards adopted industry-wide (AMD64, anyone?), so FMA4 and XOP could also be adopted as a standard. However, until a large amount of PCs support these instruction sets, we doubt we’ll see many compilers and applications use them. We’re also sceptical of buying a product now based on promises that it’ll be better in the future, unless that product happens to be worth buying now.

The final grievance is the price of the FX-8150 – at £205 it’s £37 more expensive than a Core i5-2500K and only £40 cheaper than a Core i7-2600K. It fails to outperform either conclusively, with only some victories over the quad-core i5-2500K in some heavily multi-threaded tasks. But if you’re after multi-threaded performance, the £40 extra for a Core i7-2600K is more than justified. Perhaps the 6- and 4-core flavours of the FX will prove interesting upgrades, but the FX-8150 definitely isn’t.

We therefore feel totally vindicated that at no point did we recommend any bit-tech reader to buy a Socket AM3+ motherboard ‘to get ready for Bulldozer.’ We merely reviewed these boards on the premise that they were new and that people might wish to buy one as an upgrade for a Phenom II system – we had no idea whether Bulldozer would be good, bad or indifferent, so we urged caution. Turns out we were right: the FX-8150 is a stinker.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested

 

[Bogdan901]

Ne verujte OBR-u, ne verujte ovom, onom, evo vam sada... I totalno je nebitno sta skalira u igrama, sve su GPU-bound.

 

[Lukija]

Posle bitke, svi su generali.

 

[Herkul]

Po prvim utiscima te cene nemaju veze sa mozgom ne znam kako su ih formirali

Pa moraju ljudi malo da povrate pare koje su ulozili u razvoj Bulldozera i marketing.

Sto se prodaje tice da li ce se proizvod prodavati li ne nezavisi samo od odnosa cene prema performansama zasta su tipicni primeri bili Apple i Intel. Pentium 4 je imao losiji odnos cene prema performansama u odnosu na Amd procesore i obicno je bio duplo skuplji od ekvivaletnog AMD (Da nespominjem je u pocetku koristio iskljucivo preskupu Rambus memorju i njenu cenu) pa uprkos Intel je u tom periodu prodao vise procesora nego AMD.

 

[Lukija]

Mislim da ovde ni pokojni Jobs ne bi mogao da uradi ništa.

 

[Herkul]

Potcenjus ga, covek je uspeo da ubedi ljude da im USB i ADOBE flash na mobilnim uredjajima nisu potrebni a odnos cene njegovih racunar prema ekvivaletnom PC-u bolje da nespominjem.