AMD HD68XX Serija - oficijelni thread

[Oki]

 

[monteboy]

- Dirk Meyer licno je potvrdio start nove graficke serije za sledecu nedelju.
- kompletan portfolio druge DirectX-11-generacije kako je zove AMD ce biti dostupan u vise 100.000 primeraka jos u ovom kvartalu.
- Dodatno je receno da je AMD vec do sada isporucio 25 miliona GPU'a koji podrzavaju DirectX 11.

Ocekuje se da ce 6870 biti od prilike 30% efikasniji od direktnog konkurenta GTX 460.
Cayman ce po svemu sudeci povratiti ubedljivo performansku krunu kad je single gpu segment u pitanju.
A Antilles ce postaviti po mojoj proceni neresive zadatke za NV...

Bice ova zima interesantna .... i puna entuziazma ....

 

[Grodos]

Zar 6870 ne bi trebao da bude bolji od 5870, tj. od gtx 470, a 6770 od 5770, tj. gtx 460???
Meni je malo glupavo da nova generacija bude slabija od stare...

 

[monteboy]

Zar 6870 ne bi trebao da bude bolji od 5870, tj. od gtx 470, a 6770 od 5770, tj. gtx 460???
Meni je malo glupavo da nova generacija bude slabija od stare...

Dok cena odgovara naming proizvoda nece imati znacajan uticaj...

naslednik 5770 ce biti 6870 koji ce i po ceni biti konkurentan sa 460 gtx
naslednik 5850/5870 ce biti 6950/6970 sa adekvatnim cenama
a naslednik 5970 ce biti 6990 ....

Ja cenim da je AMD otisao na taj korak zbog cinjenice da ce single GPU Cayman (6970) biti po performansama slican danasnjem dual GPU resenju HD5970 zbog toga
i naziv 6970 !

Korak koji AMD ovdje zeli da napravi je brutalno veliki ako imamo u vidu da uopste nije doslo da smanjenja proizvodnog procesa jos uveg govorimo o 40nm !

 

[Grodos]

Ja sam kontao da će zadržati "stare" nazive klasa sa logičnim pomakom prvog broja za "+1". Kontam ja njihov marketing - tipa toliko su uznapredovali da je sledeća generacija srednje klase dobra koliko i visoka klasa stare generacije...međutim, ne mogu da se otmem utisku da će ovo da izazove pometnju kod neupućenih lica! Evo prvi ja (ne, ja nisam neupućen na taj način ) sam kontao da će to da budu dobre stare oznake na koje su svi navikli i automatski znaju koja kartica pripada kojoj klasi, jer 6870 bez obzira na to što je skoro podjednako dobra kao i 5850, ipak je naslednik 5770 što je svrstava u srednju klasu a ipak u oznaci ima x8xx što je dosad bila oznaka visoke klase...

 

[BigJoe]

To sa imenovanjem je klasicno nqvlacenje marketing timova. Krajnje kofuzno za potrosace i ja bih rekao neposteno...

 

[Villy]

Jeste, ali sad će klinci da se pale; "Vidi ja imam 6870" itd... IMO AMD nema karticu srednje klase trenutno. rename 5770 u 6770 je će biti krajnje glupo, jer je to ista kartica! Jedino ako kroz drajvere ne osakate 5770, slično onome kad je nV isključila AA i AF na GF440 modelu, ali ne verujem da će se usuditi da urade tako nešto.

 

[Diabolique]

Meni ne smeta naziv modela, mogu da je nazovu i "double the action, triple the excitement". Interesuje me samo da li ima bolji odnos cena/performanse u odnosu na prethodnu generaciju i konkurenciju, a ako je bolji odnos svakako će biti odličan izbor.

 

[Diabolique]

 

[Diabolique]

AMD's latest graphics processors is just around the corner, and one of the first of them is the Radeon HD 6800 series. The value version of it is the Radeon HD 6850, its most probable specifications have surfaced. To begin with, HD 6850 is based on AMD's new Barts GPU, built on the 40 nm process. The source mentions that the SKU will have 800 stream cores enabled, from earlier reports we're lead to believe that these stream cores are individually more complex than AMD's traditional 5D (4 simple + 1 complex) approach to unified shaders. There is a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface holding 1 GB of memory, the card uses 5 GT/s memory chips, so the memory should be clocked around 1200 MHz (or 4800 MHz effective), if not more. The core is clocked at 775 MHz. Its FOB (freight on board) price is expected to be US $175. Power is drawn from a single 6-pin PCI-E power connector, the draw is expected to be less than 150W. Partners have the option of using a premium blower-type cooler, or a cost-effective heatsink-type cooler. The latter had been pictured a while back, posted below for reference.

 

[Diabolique]

The fine folks at IT168 revealed the first pictures of the Radeon HD 6870 PCB with its cooler completely off, and in its production livery (black). Also let out is the first [clear] picture of the GPU itself. The PCB was first pictured in its nascent qualification sample form, with a development GPU cooler on. The final version of the PCB sticks to its qualification sample for the most part, it has VRM components positioned forwards, trailed by the GPU and its memory. The card makes use of a 4+1+1 phase VRM. All eight memory chips are on the obverse side, each with its own 32-bit wide path, since there's a 256-bit memory interface.

The GPU package is of the same dimensions as the Cypress package, albeit a smaller die. We're getting to hear that Barts is pin-compatible with Cypress (meaning that a Barts GPU can be placed onto a Cypress PCB, given the appropriate BIOS, and it will work), however, no AIB is likely to reuse Cypress PCBs other than for Eyefinity6 designs, because while Barts can make do with a 6-layer PCB, close to every existing Cypress PCB is an 8-layer one, and that Cypress PCBs lack the second mini-DP connector. The die is placed diagonally on the package (à la Cypress and R600), it is rectangular, while the Cypress die is more or less square. ChipHell.com contributor musicinlove did a nice size measurement and comparison. Finally, the AMD "arrow" logo is etched onto the die, it's curtains down for ATI.

 

[Diabolique]

An pair of early listings by a Dutch online store indicates what prices of some Radeon HD 6800 series products could look like, in that part of the world. The Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 (part number 11180-00-20R), is listed at €158.82 without taxes (€189 with it); and Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 (part number 21179-00-40R) at €214.29 w/o taxes (€255 with it). We conservatively estimate the USD pricing to look like $199 for the HD 6850, and $249 for the HD 6870, on the basis of this listing.

 

[TheBear]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://tech.sina.com.cn/h/2010-10-16/06171529120.shtml&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=gbk

6870:

6850:

 

[Flight]

Lepo, lepo!

 

[TheBear]

Jos detalja o XFX:

Jos detalja:

Spojler

 

[c-p-r]

Mozemo li pretpostaviti onda da ce doci do pada cena serije 5xxx?

 

[animaN]

Mozemo li pretpostaviti onda da ce doci do pada cena serije 5xxx?

Verovatno u pochetku, ali ce pre biti da ce 5xxx serija nestati

 

[matrixsu]

asus-ova 6870 sa 50% oc-a?
http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=251680

 

[monteboy]

Ziveo Antilles !!!!

 

[Lukija]

Hmm, ovo je vrlo zanimljivo. Not limited to polygon edges, alpha-tested surfaces ... Faster than super-sampling.

 

[TheBear]

Evo i svih detalja:

http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=251737

Meni ovo izgleda sjajno !

 

[monteboy]

jos interesantnije ....

 

[Oki]

Samo da cena ne bude toliko duplo veca i sve ce biti u redu. Sta vise ocekujem da bude i niza od 5xxx serije jer se ponose da su unapredili tehnologiju a nisu se spustili ispod 40nm.... e sada ako to nije bitno zbog cega se navodi!?

FUD je jak na net-u. Prejak.

 

[Flight]

Samo da cena ne bude toliko duplo veca i sve ce biti u redu. Sta vise ocekujem da bude i niza od 5xxx serije jer se ponose da su unapredili tehnologiju a nisu se spustili ispod 40nm.... e sada ako to nije bitno zbog cega se navodi!?

FUD je jak na net-u. Prejak.

A, sta je to FUD, znam sta je food, ali FUD ne znam OKi?

 

[Oki]

Odlichan dan da se sazna neshto novo : )

http://www.netlingo.com/word/fud.php