AMD R9 (Hawaii) - zvanična tema

[Fallen]

Upravo ono sto je Fantom rekao a o cemu nije znao (nije skolovala od vremena ). HD 8000 ide u OEM I to je u stvari HD 7000 serija.
Ono sto nas zanima je izlazak HD 9000 serije i HD 9970.
Znam I ja da je negde na jesen ali izgleda da niko ne zna tacan datum sto opet znaci da mogu lako I da pomere izlazak I za zimu sto nije iskljuceno.

 

[Darko]

Ono sto je porazavajuce u citavoj prici je ovo:
"The HD 9970 should offer about 35% more performance over its predecessor the HD 7970 GHz Edition".
Za komparaciju, setite se samo prelaska sa Radeona 8500 na 9700: jedna generacija - kvantni skok. Nove generacije se stvarno ne isplate. Intel je poceo tapkanje u mestu sa ivy, nastavio da tapka sa hasom a ATI tj amd i nevidija digle nogu i one da se potkuju. Sramno.

 

[Fallen]

Pa ne mozes da ocekujes ne znam kakav skok u performansama kada je isti nm proces u pitanju.

 

[ThePocetnik]

Ociscena tema od spama, rasprava isl...
Nastavite u okviru teme...

 

[FantomX]

Izgleda da ce na kraju biti HD 8000... Mada ovo nije high-end, bar ovaj leak... Mainstream samo...


AMD "Oland" Radeon HD 8800 Series SKUs Unveiled

Apparently, launch of AMD's Radeon HD 8800 series is close enough for some sources to come up with specifications. The HD 8800 series, according to one source, is based on a new silicon codenamed "Oland," which is built on the 28 nm process, packing 3.4 billion transistors with around 270 mm² die-area. According to the source, the two HD 8800 series models, the HD 8870 "Oland XT" will up performance per Watt and cost-performance ratios over current HD 7800 series, while maintaining current process technologies.

The Radeon HD 8870, according to numbers provided by the source, could offer performance comparable to today's high-end GPUs. The HD 8870 is clocked at 1050 MHz with 1100 MHz PowerTune Boost frequency; while the HD 8850 is clocked at 925 MHz with 975 MHz boost frequency. The memory of both SKUs is clocked at 6.00 GHz, yielding 192 GB/s memory bandwidth

Izvor - Techpowerup

 

[Alk0]

Sta ? Odustali su od R2-D2 oznaka ?

 

[FantomX]

Izgleda, ovo su objavili 09.09, dakle nedelju dana pre ovoga...

An example of this new nomenclature could be, say, Radeon R9 280 X, where "9" denotes the high-end market segment, currently held by Radeon HD 7900 series, "2" indicating generation, and "80" denoting variant. "XT" (full-spec) chips could get the "80" marking, and "Pro" (partial-spec) chips could get the "60" or "70" marking, but it isn't fixed, and could even be "50" and "40" for lower-end parts. At this point, we can't even speculate what the "i" (special feature) could denote. For mobile parts, the letter "M" could be prefixed to the "xz" component of the model number (example: Radeon R9 M380 X). Validations for graphics cards running early drivers with this naming scheme, have been showing up on our GPU-Z Validation database for days now, and our analysis is our best understanding of their naming strings. Capiche? Can't blame you.

Mada me to R2 podseca na ventilator 2900XT kome ni 512bit ring bus nije pomogao "onomad" :/

 

[Medolinos]

Znaci 8850 oko 200e, oce imati 2gb Vrama ili ?

 

[FantomX]

99%, ne verujem da ce dopustiti da 760ke imaju 2GB a njihovi novi modeli 1GB....

Mozda ostane 1GB za neki nizi segment, ali je i to bezveze, karte postaju dovoljno jake da lepo uposle i tu memoriju...

 

[Medolinos]

Jako bi bilo glupo da bude od 1gb Vrama, sa ovim poboljsanjem gde bi je mogao staviti u poredjenju sa gtx 760, da gledamo da ce biti od 2 gb Vrama?

 

[FantomX]

Ne bi trebalo da prave mainstream i midrange karte sa 1GB, verujem da ce to ostati samo na nekim entry level modelima...8750 ili tako nesto, kako ih vec budu zvali...

 

[Medolinos]

Ne izbegavaj pitanje Gde vidis 8850 u poredjenju sa 760, onako laicki receno, posto za sada nemamo sve informacije..

 

[FantomX]

Hehe, nisam ni skontao sta si pitao

Recimo da su GTX 760 i HD 7950 tu negde, jako blizu.

HD 7950 ima pixel fillrate od 28.2Gpx i texture fillrate od 98.6Gtx. Memorijski bandwith je 240GBps.

Po grafikonu koji je procureo HD 8850 ima pixel fillrate od 31.2Gpx i texture fillrate od 93.6Gtx, ali i memorijski bandwith od 192GBps.

GTX 760 HD ima pixel fillrate od 34.7Gpx i texture fillrate od 104.2Gtx i isti memorijski bandwith od 192GBps kao sto ce imati 8850.


U principu, bice jako blizu, ali na papiru je za GTX 760 za nijansu jaca.

Jedino sto moze da ide u korist HD 8850 je overklok, mada i GTX 760 jako dobro OC-uje, sa boost-om idu frekvencije i do 1300MHz, sto svakako nije malo.


Kazem ja, bice zanimljiva jesen.

 

[Medolinos]

Hvala na lepom i slikovitom odgovoru Fantomicni..

Mozda ce jos biti jedna od prednosti 8850 manja potrosnja..izgleda da prelazak na nVidu ne gine

Velika stvar je i u tome sto ce nVida imati verovatno ispeglanije drajvere(posto je ranije izbacila karticu), dok ce AMD tu imati posla..

 

[FantomX]

Po onome sto sam ja ispratio kroz testove - nvidia je sa svakim izdanjem drajvera sve bolje, dok je amd sve gori, 13.4 su poslednji dobri.

GTX 760 ima TDP od 170W sto je odlicno za performanse koje nudi, a 8850 jedino da ode ispod 150W sto je malo verovatno za istu dozu performansi.

Videcemo...

 

[Medolinos]

Mozda nas 8850 iznenadi nekom dobrom cenom, kad vec kaska za nVidiom...

 

[matrixsu]

neke vesti o novoj AMD grafickoj(ako si informacije tacne)
http://wccftech.com/amd-hawaii-r9290x-gpu-volcanic-islands-benchmark-results-exposed-fastest-gpu-planet-1020-mhz-clock-speed/

 

[FantomX]

Ako je ovo istina i cena krene sa 599$, onda su ubili nvidiu

 

[matrixsu]

ja bi voleo da su informacije tacne jer je mnogo bolje kad postoji konkurencija jer su samim tim i manje cene

jos neke informacije
http://videocardz.com/45753/amd-radeon-r9-290x-slightly-faster-gtx-titan

 

[Darko]

Ako je ovo istina i cena krene sa 599$, onda su ubili nvidiu

Nisu. Taman ce lepo da saradjuju. Uzmes AMD za main karticu i koristis Titana za fiziku

 

[FantomX]

Here are the first set of specifications for AMD's next high-end GPU silicon, on which the company will no doubt carve out several SKUs from. Codenamed "Hawaii," and slated for unveiling on the 26th in, well, Hawaii, the 28 nm chip is what AMD will take NVIDIA's GK110 silicon head-on with. It is based on AMD's second-generation Graphics CoreNext micro-architecture.

With an estimated die-area of 430 mm² (18% bigger than "Tahiti,") the chip physically features 2,816 stream processors (SPs) spread across 44 clusters with 64 SPs each (a 37.5% increase over "Tahiti"). The chip features four independent raster engines, compared to two independent ones on "Tahiti." This could translate into double the geometry processing muscle as "Tahiti," with four independent tessellation units. The memory interface of the chip is expected to be 384-bit wide, based on the GDDR5 specification. Given the way TMUs are arranged on chips based on this architecture, one can deduce 176 TMUs on the chip. The ROP count could be 32 or 48. The chip will feature hardware support for DirectX 11.2, including the much hyped shared resources (mega-texture) feature.

Izvor: Techpowerup

 

[Medolinos]

Znaci ipak ostajem na AMD-u

 

[Jovica84]

Sta mislite koliko ce kostati taj 8870?

 

[Chabex]

Znaci ipak ostajem na AMD-u

Pa ako imas oko 600 evra za kartu onda ima smisla ostati

Btw spominje se vec uveliko i 512bit mem kontroler tako da ko zna na kraju kakve su zapravo specifikacije, mozda se na kraju biti i blago razocaranje, mada sudeci po neproverenim rezultatima sa dalekog istoka cini mi se da su performanse veoma blizu Titana, negde i bolje. Pitanje samo sta je tacno od toga, saznacemo za 2 dana .

 

[FantomX]

Videcemo, tu su novi drajveri, karta samo sto nije, nadamo se da ce brzo stici do nas.

Kako cu da je natezem.