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Samsung prodaje HDD biznis Seagate-u

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The Korean electronics giant has just announced that it's selling its hard disk drive-manufacturing arm to Seagate Technology for a neat $1.375 billion in equal measures of cash and stocks. As a result, Samsung Electronics will own approximately 9.6 percent of Seagate and get to nominate one new member to join Seagate's Board of Directors, while the two companies have further agreed to deepen their strategic relationship with related cross-licensing and supply stipulations. Samsung will provision Seagate's solid state drives with NAND flash memory, whereas Seagate will furnish Samsung's PCs and consumer electronics products with hard disk storage. The deal is expected to complete in full by year's end and you can read all about it in Seagate's press release after the break.
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Samsung Electronics Considering Selling Hard Disk Drive Business

SEOUL -(Dow Jones)- Samsung Electronics Co. (005930.SE) is considering selling its money-losing hard-disk drive business to raise funds for investment in new growth areas, a person familiar with the situation said Sunday.

Samsung is looking to sell the business for $1.5 billion but might consider a deal under $1 billion because it "is trying to get rid of" the business, the person said.

The most likely buyer for the business is Seagate Technology Inc. (STX: 17.84, +0.20, +1.13%), the U.S.-based computer hard-disk maker, the person said.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/04/17/samsung-electronics-considering-selling-hard-disk-drive-business-source/
 

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Vec vidim sve veci monopol, prvo WD otkupi Hitachi, a sad (mozda) i Seagate otkupi Samsung. Ako se ne varam Seagate je kupio i Makstor pre par godina.
 

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Nece ni WD ni Seagate daleko dogurati ako ne udju ozbiljnije u SSD biznis
 
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SSD je i dalje skupa ekskluziva, veoma niskog kapaciteta. Kada bude parirao po kapacitetu i donekle ceni po jedom GB, onda mozemo pricati da je neko od klasičnih proizvođača ugrožen.
 

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Sve nove tehnologije u nekom relativno kratkom periodu zamene stare, tako ce i SSD. Za sad je jedini problem cena i donekle pouzdanost.
 

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I kao sto ti je Misko vec rekao velicina ;) Mislim sta ce meni 128GB max, sta da radim sa time??? Dok instaliram Win, PS i dodatke, par igra(pogotvu novih koje su 2xDVD) i ode ceo disk... Nije jos hdd skroz ugrozen, a daleko od toga da ce ga SSD ugroziti valjano u skorijoj buducnosti
 

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Nisam mislio da ce hard disk iscenznuti bas 100%. Ostace za neki veci storidz i enterprise dok SSD ne postane tolko jeftin i veliki, tj jeftin i pouzdan da i tu moze da ga zameni. Ali recimo za sistem i igrice...
 

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Trenutno je isplatljivije napraviti RAID-0 nego kupovina SSD-a.
 

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Da ne spomenemo jos koliko SSD ima kraci zivotni vek :)
 

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A koliko to SSD ima kraci zivotni vek?
 

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Ako se SSD koristi u prosečnoj kućnoj upotrebi, a ne da se od jutra do sutra drljaju benchmarci, SSD će da traje godinama i godinama. Nisam još čuo da se nekom "istrošio" i crkao... MLC tipično imaju MTBF oko 1.000.000 radnih sati i više ako imaju dobar "wear leveling", a SLC i do 10.000.000 radnih sati, što je znatno više nego bilo koji hard-disk!!!

Trenutno je isplatljivije napraviti RAID-0 nego kupovina SSD-a.
Ako gledaš za kućne korisnike, u pogledu kapaciteta i za primenu gde se prevashodno čitaju i pišu veliki fajlovi, onda jeste tako, RAID-0 je isplativiji, ali takođe i znatno manje pouzdan, zbog veće verovatnoće otkaza.

Za servere i zahtevnije korisnike (podrazumeva se da se ima para), SSD "je majka" po pitanju performansi. Ume glat da bude i 5-10x brži od RAID-0 setup-a hard-diskova... Gde god se "istovremeno" čita ili upisuje veliki broj fajlova, mehanika jednostavno nema šanse... SSD tipično ima IOPS od 50k, a HDD tek 1-4k OPS-a.

Ako ne veruješ, probaj da kopiraš neki veliki folder (recimo barem 1GB i barem 2000 fajlova) sa RAID0 hard-diska na isti hard-disk, a onda to isto uradi sa nekim boljim SSD-om pa reci rezultat... :)
 
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Mislio sam na kucnu upotrebu, u pogledu cena-performanse. Naravno da je SSD bolji, ali su cene SSD-a i dalje previsoke - pogotovo za nas standard.

A sto se tice pouzdanosti RAID niza, vecina korisnika isti ne koristi za skladistenje bitnih podataka. Npr. ja imam 2x320GB RAID-0 za sistemski disk i 1TB za podatke.
 

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Ako se SSD koristi u prosečnoj kućnoj upotrebi, a ne da se od jutra do sutra drljaju benchmarci, SSD će da traje godinama i godinama. Nisam još čuo da se nekom "istrošio" i crkao... MLC tipično imaju MTBF oko 1.000.000 radnih sati i više ako imaju dobar "wear leveling", a SLC i do 10.000.000 radnih sati, što je znatno više nego bilo koji hard-disk!!!
Upravo tako.

Pritom, nije zgoreg pomenuti da na SSD-u nema nikakvih mehanickih delova koji bi mogli otkazati... zaista, vredi spomenuti.
Ne kazem ovim da je SSD pouzdaniji od HDD-a, niti pak obrnuto... samo cu reci da je u nekim stvarima SSD u prednosti, a u nekim HDD. Sto se te famozne pouzdanosti i izdrzljivosti tice. A sto kaze M_M, ni ja nisam jos cuo da je nekome crkao SSD zbog toga sto se "istrosio".

Potrajace svaki SSD koju godinu, to je sasvim sigurno, ili bar onoliko koliko je u garantnom roku. A sa tempom kojim se razvijaju, ne verujem da ce neko da drlja jedan isti SSD u svojoj masini 5-10 godina. Pa da nam, nakon tog perioda, kaze kako je crkao. Usled "istrosenosti".
 

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Sta je ovde tema ? :P " Moj SSD " vs Regular HDD il ... :)
 

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Ma jok... cisto da demistifikujemo neke zablude, predrasude i "legende".
 

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Ma da se ne lazemo, svi bi ga mi samo je trenutno jos uvek luksuz :) Doduse ja se meracim vec dugo, cekam prolece i veliko spremanje i onda na C300 :)
 
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