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2K je 2560x1440 a 2560x1080 je samo produzeni FHD.
Druga stvar 2560x1080 na 35" izgleda cak i losije nego FullHD na 27". To je ocaj
Za 35" treba ici na 3440x1440

LG 27GL850-B ovaj predlog je dobar sto je dao kolega.
Da, razmisljao sam o tome da je rez mala za 35 incha i kako bih to izledalo uopste. Otici cu danas da pogledam taj LG, hvala Domi!


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I sta je na kraju? 2k je QHD ili moze da bude i FullHD?
 

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Znaci popularni FHD 1920x1080 je ustvari 2k?Cestitke ko je nadogradio monitor na 2k:ludnica:
 

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Najbolje bi bilo kad niko ne bi upotrebljavao oznake sa "K" i pravio konfuziju. Najvise su krivi marketing magovi koji se gadjaju lepim i velikim brojkama. Ljudi culi pa krenuli da ponavljaju...
 

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Interesuje me ako neko strucan moze da prokomentarise da li softverski moze kao sto imamo amd virtual super resolution da dobijemo 1440p ili 2160p,da li tu ima ima razlike u samom kvalitetu u odnosu na 1080p,verovatno ne mogu prici hardverskim zbog piksela itd..ali da li ima priblizno ili bilo kakvog boljitka?
 

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Interesuje me ako neko strucan moze da prokomentarise da li softverski moze kao sto imamo amd virtual super resolution da dobijemo 1440p ili 2160p,da li tu ima ima razlike u samom kvalitetu u odnosu na 1080p,verovatno ne mogu prici hardverskim zbog piksela itd..ali da li ima priblizno ili bilo kakvog boljitka?
Igrao sam Assassins Creed Origin u 4K rezoluciji, tj. igrao sam na podesavanju 1920x1080 / Resolution scale 200%. To je to 4K.
Odmah cu ti reci, postoji razlika izmedju 1080p 100% i 1080p 200% i to poprilicna. Na 1080p 100% imao sam oko 100 fps u proseku na ultra podesavanjima dok sam na 1080p 200% imao oko 35 do 40 ali sam zrtvovao 60 fps-a zarad prikaza koji sam vido. Neopisivo veci broj detalja u grafici iako je 1080p monitor. Slika je daleko ostrija i nazubljene ivice na ne postoje. View distance je daleko bolji, detaljniji, ostriji. Texture su mnogo vise detaljne iako je 1080p monitor.
Po onome sto mi je google "rekao" 3840x2160 na 1080p monitoru je otprilike 3/4 realnog 4K prikaza (gubis 25%) koliko je to sada tacno zaista ne znam.
 

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Znaci popularni FHD 1920x1080 je ustvari 2k?Cestitke ko je nadogradio monitor na 2k:ludnica:
Tako nekako. Evo da se prekopiram:

2K je veoma blizu 1080p. 2K nikako nije 2560x1440p.

Kada je gaming u pitanju, 2K izraz se generalno pogresno koristi na ovom a i ostalim forumima. Zato sam pre par godina stalno trubio da jasno oznacavamo - 1080p (Full HD), 1440p (QHD), 2160p (UHD) jer je svima onda jasno na sta mislimo.

Znaci tehnicki to je 2.5K, jer se gleda po sirini. Mislim da je Digital Foundry ranije koristio bas "2.5K" izraz za 2560x1440.


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Pretpostavljam da je "K" glupost nastala zbog marketinga.
Da se nadovezem na DeRadicci-a, "2K" (kao i bilo koji drugi "K") ne moze da se gleda kao fiksna rezolucija. Kao sto je napisano u post-u iznad, "K" se odnosi na broj piksela po sirini. Tu se naravno misli na pribliznu vrednost, a zbog proporcije samog monitora ta rezolucija moze da varira solidno (sto se vidi u .pdf-u okacenom iznad).
Obzirom da se svi pale na "2K", "4K", realno mislim da je idealno raditi ono sto youtube radi kada biras rezoluciju, a to je da pored standardnog npr 2160p pored stoji i "4K" za one koji se pale na to.
 

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Igrao sam Assassins Creed Origin u 4K rezoluciji, tj. igrao sam na podesavanju 1920x1080 / Resolution scale 200%. To je to 4K.
Odmah cu ti reci, postoji razlika izmedju 1080p 100% i 1080p 200% i to poprilicna. Na 1080p 100% imao sam oko 100 fps u proseku na ultra podesavanjima dok sam na 1080p 200% imao oko 35 do 40 ali sam zrtvovao 60 fps-a zarad prikaza koji sam vido. Neopisivo veci broj detalja u grafici iako je 1080p monitor. Slika je daleko ostrija i nazubljene ivice na ne postoje. View distance je daleko bolji, detaljniji, ostriji. Texture su mnogo vise detaljne iako je 1080p monitor.
Po onome sto mi je google "rekao" 3840x2160 na 1080p monitoru je otprilike 3/4 realnog 4K prikaza (gubis 25%) koliko je to sada tacno zaista ne znam.
Da,primetio sam i ja da ima sličnu dubinu i vecu oštrinu.Da li to znaci da nema potrebe bacati 700,800..1000e na monitor sa vecom rezolucijom,nego evo npr moj da se manifestuje 4k i 144hz kad nema velike razlike ili 1/4 razlike? :)Jes malo deluje glupost.
 

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E ljudi nasao sam ovaj za 480€ nema ga nigde ispod 555€, nov neotpakovan, mesec dana star jos 23 meseca garancije, ja bih odmah da ga kupim, jeli podrzavate?



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Da,primetio sam i ja da ima sličnu dubinu i vecu oštrinu.Da li to znaci da nema potrebe bacati 700,800..1000e na monitor sa vecom rezolucijom,nego evo npr moj da se manifestuje 4k i 144hz kad nema velike razlike ili 1/4 razlike? :)Jes malo deluje glupost.
Monitor sa 4K rezolucijom ne kosta toliko :) Ima da se kupi i za mnogo manje para. 4K 144+Hz je vec bacanje para jer to niko ne moze da pokrene za sad.
Monitor sa 4K ne treba razmatrati ispod 32" jer sve ispod toga je presitno. A onda dolazimo do budzeta gde mozemo kupiti dobar QHD gaming monitor.

32" 4K/UHD/2160p PPI, 0.1845mm
27" 2,5K/QHD/1440p PPI, 0.2335mm

Da li je ova razlika primetna? Verovatno da ali bas i ne verujem da opravdava razliku u ceni a pogotovu performansama. Po meni 4K monitor za gaming je bacanje para i frljanje resursima racunara.
Idealan gaming monitor za mene je 27" QHD ili 34" ultrawide 3440x1440, ok ovaj drugi spada u 4k na neki nacin ali je ultrawide a kupiti 16:9 4k monitor za gaming je smesno.
 

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Dali neko zna kako da podesim Monitor da radi na 144mhz? Lg 27 850


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Ako je to ovaj model 27UK850-W on nema 144Hz vec 60Hz refresh rate.

480 evra za monitor sa 60Hz refresom :ludnica: ludilo.

EDIT: Ti si se bajo moj malo za'ebo da me izvines na izrazu. Ja i jos jedan kolega smo ti predlozili model LG 27GL850-B a ne LG 27UK850-W a kljucna razlika je u ova dva slova
Jel mozes da kazes koji tacno monitor imas ako je LG 27GL850-B onda ima 144Hz

Kucaj u start search
Advanced display info i kad ti otvori prozor idi na Display adapter pa onda izaberi karticu monitor i tu izaberi refresh.
 
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hyperx fury 12 GB DDR3 1600 mhz cl10
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire Nitro + RX 580 4gb
Display:
Asus vg248qe 144hz
HDD:
hdd(wd blue 500gb),ssd(adata su650 240gb)
Sound:
Logitech G230
Case:
cooler master elite
PSU:
Corsair RM1000x
Mice & keyboard:
HyperX pulsefire fps pro,Cooler master Masterkeys Pro M,Podloga - Zowie G-SR
Internet:
sbb 150/10
OS & Browser:
windows 10 pro 64bit
Other:
xaomi redmi note 8 pro
:eek::eek::eek: Au...nije valjda to?
 

Dom1nat0R

PCAXE Addicted
Učlanjen(a)
03.09.2015.
Poruka
13.402
Rezultat reagovanja
8.331
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Intel® Core™ i7-10700K / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360
Motherboard:
ASUS Maximus XII HERO (WI-FI)
RAM:
G.SKILL tridentZ Black-White 32GB (2x16) DDR4 @3600MHz CL17 [F4-3600C17D-32GTZKW]
VGA & cooler:
AMD Radeon™ RX 7800 XT Phantom Gaming 16GB OC
Display:
LG Ultra Gear 27GN850-B [1ms,144Hz, Nano IPS]
HDD:
Samsung 860 PRO 256GB Samsung 860 EVO 500GB 2x Samsung 860 EVO 2TB WD Red 3TB
Sound:
ASUS Xonar Essence ONE / Cambridge Audio Azur 640A V2 / MA RX2+Pioneer TSW306C / Logitech Z906 [5.1]
Case:
Thermaltake Suppressor F51 [Window]
PSU:
Cooler Master V850 [Full modular]
Optical drives:
N/A
Mice & keyboard:
ASUS ROG Chakram / ASUS ROG Claymore [MX Brown] / Headset hyperX Cloud Alpha
Internet:
Optical fiber 350mbs/110mbs
OS & Browser:
Windows 10 Pro 64bit / Google Chrome
Other:
PlayStation 4 PRO CUH-7216B / TV Samsung UE50RU7022 50" 4K
Nadam se da nije jer na onom oglasu sto je postovao stoji ovaj model LG 27GL850-B sto me dovodi do zakljucka da je ipak 144Hz model.
 

Dukanyx

PCAXE Member
Učlanjen(a)
26.01.2014.
Poruka
397
Rezultat reagovanja
79
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X @ 4,4Ghz 1.4 V & NZXT Kraken X72
Motherboard:
ASRock X470 Taichi
RAM:
Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 48GB - OC @ 3800Mhz
VGA & cooler:
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio
Display:
LG 27GL850-B UltraGear 27 Zoll WQHD Gaming Monitor (1 ms, G-SYNC, 144 Hz)
HDD:
Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus Series NVMe 1 TB V-NAND MLC - M.2, WD Elements™, 2 TB HDD, 2.5 Zoll, extern
Sound:
Logitech Z607 5.1, Sonos One - Smart Speaker, 2x50W Klipsch
Case:
PHANTEKS Enthoo Evolv X Midi-Tower, RGB, Tempered Glass, 4 x Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax
PSU:
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 850W, MDPC-X Kabel-Sleeves
Mice & keyboard:
Corsair M65 RGB ELITE & Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
Internet:
1&1-50/10mb
OS & Browser:
Windows 10& Google Chrome
Other:
Sony KD55XE7077

Djolekg

PCAXE Addicted
Učlanjen(a)
31.08.2016.
Poruka
9.731
Rezultat reagovanja
5.928
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Intel i7 3770K(4.4ghz),-BeQuiet pure rock slim
Motherboard:
AsRock p67 pro
RAM:
hyperx fury 12 GB DDR3 1600 mhz cl10
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire Nitro + RX 580 4gb
Display:
Asus vg248qe 144hz
HDD:
hdd(wd blue 500gb),ssd(adata su650 240gb)
Sound:
Logitech G230
Case:
cooler master elite
PSU:
Corsair RM1000x
Mice & keyboard:
HyperX pulsefire fps pro,Cooler master Masterkeys Pro M,Podloga - Zowie G-SR
Internet:
sbb 150/10
OS & Browser:
windows 10 pro 64bit
Other:
xaomi redmi note 8 pro

vladarko

PCAXE Addicted
Učlanjen(a)
07.01.2018.
Poruka
14.509
Rezultat reagovanja
10.038
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
Ago Ao 192 Kurier
CPU & cooler:
Intel i9-10900 & Be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black
Motherboard:
Asus Z490 Tuf Gaming Plus
RAM:
Patriot Viper 4 x 8 GB DDR4 3200 MHz
VGA & cooler:
Palit nVidia 3060 Ti 8 GB
Display:
27" AOC 27G2SPU/BK
HDD:
Kingston NV2 250GB nvme + Western Digital Blue1 TB sata III
Sound:
Microlab MT280B, Sony WH-XB700
Case:
SilentiumPC Ventum VT2 TG + 2 x Bionix P120 PWM PST + 2 x Bionix P140 PWM PST
PSU:
XPG Core Reactor 650
Mice & keyboard:
Redragon Impact M908 & Cooler Master SK650 & Redragon Diti K585
Internet:
mts 400/200
OS & Browser:
Windows 10
Au, nacrta ga!?! :d
 

Djolekg

PCAXE Addicted
Učlanjen(a)
31.08.2016.
Poruka
9.731
Rezultat reagovanja
5.928
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Intel i7 3770K(4.4ghz),-BeQuiet pure rock slim
Motherboard:
AsRock p67 pro
RAM:
hyperx fury 12 GB DDR3 1600 mhz cl10
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire Nitro + RX 580 4gb
Display:
Asus vg248qe 144hz
HDD:
hdd(wd blue 500gb),ssd(adata su650 240gb)
Sound:
Logitech G230
Case:
cooler master elite
PSU:
Corsair RM1000x
Mice & keyboard:
HyperX pulsefire fps pro,Cooler master Masterkeys Pro M,Podloga - Zowie G-SR
Internet:
sbb 150/10
OS & Browser:
windows 10 pro 64bit
Other:
xaomi redmi note 8 pro

Dukanyx

PCAXE Member
Učlanjen(a)
26.01.2014.
Poruka
397
Rezultat reagovanja
79
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X @ 4,4Ghz 1.4 V & NZXT Kraken X72
Motherboard:
ASRock X470 Taichi
RAM:
Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 48GB - OC @ 3800Mhz
VGA & cooler:
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio
Display:
LG 27GL850-B UltraGear 27 Zoll WQHD Gaming Monitor (1 ms, G-SYNC, 144 Hz)
HDD:
Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus Series NVMe 1 TB V-NAND MLC - M.2, WD Elements™, 2 TB HDD, 2.5 Zoll, extern
Sound:
Logitech Z607 5.1, Sonos One - Smart Speaker, 2x50W Klipsch
Case:
PHANTEKS Enthoo Evolv X Midi-Tower, RGB, Tempered Glass, 4 x Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax
PSU:
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 850W, MDPC-X Kabel-Sleeves
Mice & keyboard:
Corsair M65 RGB ELITE & Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
Internet:
1&1-50/10mb
OS & Browser:
Windows 10& Google Chrome
Other:
Sony KD55XE7077
Hvala na trudu, stoji na 60, nema opcija za vise i na 1980x1080 je moram druge drivere da probam.
 

Djolekg

PCAXE Addicted
Učlanjen(a)
31.08.2016.
Poruka
9.731
Rezultat reagovanja
5.928
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Intel i7 3770K(4.4ghz),-BeQuiet pure rock slim
Motherboard:
AsRock p67 pro
RAM:
hyperx fury 12 GB DDR3 1600 mhz cl10
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire Nitro + RX 580 4gb
Display:
Asus vg248qe 144hz
HDD:
hdd(wd blue 500gb),ssd(adata su650 240gb)
Sound:
Logitech G230
Case:
cooler master elite
PSU:
Corsair RM1000x
Mice & keyboard:
HyperX pulsefire fps pro,Cooler master Masterkeys Pro M,Podloga - Zowie G-SR
Internet:
sbb 150/10
OS & Browser:
windows 10 pro 64bit
Other:
xaomi redmi note 8 pro

Dukanyx

PCAXE Member
Učlanjen(a)
26.01.2014.
Poruka
397
Rezultat reagovanja
79
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X @ 4,4Ghz 1.4 V & NZXT Kraken X72
Motherboard:
ASRock X470 Taichi
RAM:
Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 48GB - OC @ 3800Mhz
VGA & cooler:
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio
Display:
LG 27GL850-B UltraGear 27 Zoll WQHD Gaming Monitor (1 ms, G-SYNC, 144 Hz)
HDD:
Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus Series NVMe 1 TB V-NAND MLC - M.2, WD Elements™, 2 TB HDD, 2.5 Zoll, extern
Sound:
Logitech Z607 5.1, Sonos One - Smart Speaker, 2x50W Klipsch
Case:
PHANTEKS Enthoo Evolv X Midi-Tower, RGB, Tempered Glass, 4 x Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax
PSU:
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 850W, MDPC-X Kabel-Sleeves
Mice & keyboard:
Corsair M65 RGB ELITE & Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
Internet:
1&1-50/10mb
OS & Browser:
Windows 10& Google Chrome
Other:
Sony KD55XE7077
Status
Zatvorena za pisanje odgovora.
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