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SSD - najbolja kupovina

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Pojavio se Samsung 840, verzija od 120GB navodno već može da se nađe za oko 11000 dinara, koristi TLC čipove koji su deklarisani na 1000 P/E ciklusa, tj. na 1000 upisa što ne mora da predstavlja problem u praksi, ali ovako na papiru deluje malo nezgodno zato što je uobičajena vrednost 3000-5000 ciklusa. Više o tome:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6337/samsung-ssd-840-250gb-review/4

However, there is actually more to SSD endurance than just P/E cycles and write amplification. There has been a lot of talk lately about digital signal processing (DSP) in the industry, which is supposedly the solution for lower endurance NAND.

The basic idea behind DSP is very simple: you read changes in voltages and adapt to the changes. As I mentioned in the previous page, the voltages change as the NAND wears out and if your controller can't adapt to the changes, you'll be stressing the NAND even more. Each time you're trying to program or erase the cell, you are wearing it out, so you don't even have to succesfully program or erase the cell to cause damage. That's why the guess and test process for writing to NAND is so harmful; it may take multiple tries and each try will wear out the NAND even more.

However, if your controller can read the changes in program and erase voltages, you will know what voltages to use to program/erase the cell. Even though DSP doesn't make NAND immortal, it causes a lot less stress on the NAND, allowing it to last for more P/E cycles than what you would get without DSP.

Again, it's hard to give out any specific numbers of DSP usefulness in real world, but for example STEC is claiming that their CellCare technology can extend the endurance of regular 3K P/E cycle MLC up to as much as 60K. I've heard unofficial figures as high as 100K for some companies' DSPs, but I would take all figures with a grain of salt until they are tested by a third party. Either way, even if a good DSP is only able to double the endurance of NAND, it's a huge deal as we move to even smaller process nodes and possibly even more bits per cell.
Ako je ovo tačno onda nema potrebe brinuti o radnom veku TLC-a.:)
 
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Vertex 4 (128) ili Samsung 840 (120)? Uvazavam samo prvi sledeci post :)
Ako ima veze sa ovim posto m naravno :troll:
 

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Samsung 840 od 250GB is in the house...i skoro je dupke napunjen.
 

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Fino, nek te sluzi lepo ;)
 

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bogami, vrlo, vrlo privlačna cena!
 

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Ja tek sad skontah da su smanjili radni vek ssdova novih na 3k upisa...pa jel su oni *****i?!...nedam ja moj c300 nizasta!

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Nisi u toku, kod Samsunga 840 je smanjen na 1k upisa.:D Ima na prethodnoj strani objašnjenje zašto to ne bi trebalo da predstavlja problem.
 

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Kako se OCZ Vertex2 120Gb nosi sa performansama? Pojavio se oglas 7 dana star za 7000din, garancija sve normalno.
 

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Dok ti postavis pitanje pa dobijes odgovor on vec ode post expressom..:)
 

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Nego mozda se upustim u pazar, pa da ponovim vec prezvakano pitanje :D

Za ~100e(120GB) shta je najpametnije? Kingston V200+, Samsung 830? 840? Neshto trece? :)
 

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Ja bi uzeo 830 ili Kingston 3k.
 

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Nego mozda se upustim u pazar, pa da ponovim vec prezvakano pitanje :D

Za ~100e(120GB) shta je najpametnije? Kingston V200+, Samsung 830? 840? Neshto trece? :)
Ti ozb pitas da l' da uzmes V+200 ili 830? Kao da si uporedio volkswagen i jaguara.
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S830 dokle ga još uvek ima i ako ti razlika u ceni nije velika.
 

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Pa 1k din je razlika izmedju V+200 i Samsunga, dok je 3k josh 500din skuplji :)

Sve u semu nije strashno ;)
 

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Ja imam intela 330, samsung 830 i obican kingston v200, kupi jeftiniji ;)
 

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ZAr nije bolje ici na 840-icu?
 

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Jbg, na to se ide, vide i oni sami da veliki broj writeova nije dobar za njih proizvodjace, poenta je napraviti ssd da drzi koliko je garancija ali da mu se srozaju performanse toliko da moras da kupis novi ssd, elem, bice sigurno ovi trenutni koji se danas kupuju a tada stari ssd-ovi prave mnrcine od upisa i kvaliteta jednog dana za te koji se budu kupovali tada....duboko verujem u ovo sto sam napisao, videcemo sta ce vreme reci koje bude dolazilo..
 

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Pa dobro jbga ako se ovaj trend nastavi bice nekih 512GB po ceni 128GB za godinu do dve... necemo ionako ceo zivot koristiti jedan SSD. :)

Sto se mene tice po onoj racunici 840 mi je i vise nego dovoljan a ne menjam hardver cesto. Inace 840 Pro model bi trebao imati nivo upisa kao 830 ako ne i veci.
 

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Dok ti postavis pitanje pa dobijes odgovor on vec ode post expressom..:)
Ma putujem za koji sat iskrslo mi jbg. Tako da nista od ovoga. Al eto, gledacu ovu temu i raspitivati se jer bih mogao da ubacim SSD ovijeh dana. Sto se tice kupovine novog, gledam da uzmem Samsung 830 kad se vrnem, 100e cena za 120Gb.
 

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Ovo ti je bilo bas povoljno, cene vidim da znas kako se krecu...
 
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