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blackmore1911

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07.02.2010.
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PC / Laptop Name:
BLAIDD DRWG
CPU & cooler:
Intel® Core™ i7-7700K [DE-LIDDED] @ 4.9GHz w/ EKWB EK-Supremacy Evo Elite Edition
Motherboard:
Asus PRIME Z270-A
RAM:
Kingston HyperX Predator Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3466MHz DDR4 CL16
VGA & cooler:
Inno3D GeForce GTX1080 Twin X2 HerculeZ 8GB GDDR5X
Display:
Alienware AW2518HF [240Hz] × LG 24GM79G [144Hz]
HDD:
Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB × Western Digital RED 1TB
Sound:
FiiO K5 Pro + beyerdynamic Custom Studio & Sennheiser HD515
Case:
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic DW w/ 3 x Corsair LL120 × Phobya G-Changer v.2 280/60mm w/ 2 x Corsair ML140
PSU:
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-750FX 750W 80+ Gold
Mice & keyboard:
Razer Deathadder Elite @ SteelSeries QCK Heavy × Razer Huntsman Elite
Internet:
SBB 300/30 Mbps
OS & Browser:
Windows 11 & Opera GX
Other:
iPhone 15 Pro Max 256 GB Midnight Green, EK-XTOP Revo D5 × EK-RES X3 250, Mayhems Ultra Clear Tubing
Needs coolant colour !
 

studiovpc

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27.12.2009.
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1.012
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18
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
AMD Ryzen 7 2700x w/NZXT Kraken X62
Motherboard:
Aorus X470 Ultra Gaming
RAM:
Galax HOF OC Lab Edition 2x8 GB 4000MHz
VGA & cooler:
Aorus GTX 1080Ti Xtreme Edition
Display:
Dell SE2717H & LG 42LB671V 42" 3D LED TV
HDD:
Samsung 850 EVO 250G, OCZ Trion 150 480GB, Seagate Iron Wolf 4TB, Seagate BarraCuda 4TB
Sound:
Denon AVR-X1100W + Magnat Monitor Supreme 2000 5.1
Case:
Fractal Design Define R5 Black Tempered Glass Mod
PSU:
EVGA SuperNova G2 750W
Optical drives:
LG BH16NS40
Mice & keyboard:
Rosewill RK-9000v2 Cherry MX Blue - GMK Carbon Keycaps / A4Tech Bloody V7M
Internet:
Cable 30/3
OS & Browser:
Win 10 Pro x64 - Chrome
Other:
Xbox One Elite Controller
lepo lepo, jedino macka nekako izgleda "goofy" :D
 

Godzilla

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12.12.2010.
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745
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1
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CPU & cooler:
AMD Phenom II x4 965 @4ghz sa V6GT
Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
RAM:
Exceleram Black Sark 2x2gb 1600mhz
VGA & cooler:
5750 1gb CrossFire (Sapphire i PowerColor)
Display:
Acer AL1916W
HDD:
Western Digital caviar blue 500gb
Case:
Xigmatek Utgard
PSU:
Chieftech CFT 650W
Optical drives:
Samsung 223C
@Ivan, jos samo da slivujes onaj 24pinski :D
 

ostoja88

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01.11.2010.
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409
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2
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CPU & cooler:
intel i3-3225 & LC CC-120
Motherboard:
msi z77ma-g45
RAM:
hyperX 8gb ddr3
VGA & cooler:
hd4000
Display:
dell p2414
HDD:
840evo 250gb + seagate 1TB
PSU:
tt smart 630w
Internet:
ADSL
OS & Browser:
Windows 7
Svaka cast na kucistu imenjace! :wave:
 

Iv4n

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05.01.2010.
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1.171
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CPU & cooler:
Intel Core i5-2500K @ 4.8GHz + EKWB Supreme HF Full Copper
Motherboard:
Asus P8P67
RAM:
16GB Exceleram EBW301A 1600MHz CL9 + Bitspower FullCover Water Block
VGA & cooler:
Asus GTX680 DCII + EKWB FullCover Water block
Display:
Dell U2713HM IPS
HDD:
Samsung 840Evo 250GB
Sound:
Asus Xonar DG & Samson C03U Microphone
Case:
Corsair Obsidian 700D + Swiftech MCR320-QP radijator
PSU:
Seasonic X-750
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G710+ & Logitech G400
Internet:
SBB 70Mbit
OS & Browser:
Win 7 SP1 Ultimate - X64

Godzilla

PCAXE Member
Učlanjen(a)
12.12.2010.
Poruka
745
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1
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CPU & cooler:
AMD Phenom II x4 965 @4ghz sa V6GT
Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
RAM:
Exceleram Black Sark 2x2gb 1600mhz
VGA & cooler:
5750 1gb CrossFire (Sapphire i PowerColor)
Display:
Acer AL1916W
HDD:
Western Digital caviar blue 500gb
Case:
Xigmatek Utgard
PSU:
Chieftech CFT 650W
Optical drives:
Samsung 223C
Sto da bacas pare, samo uzmes crnu ram memoriju, tecnost za hladjenje napravis u svetlo plavoj boji, slivujes kablove i to je to.
Prelepo je kuciste... vidim i prostrano.
 

MaTRaX

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18.04.2011.
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2.887
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39
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CPU & cooler:
i5 2500K @4,5 GHz @Cuplex Kryos HF
Motherboard:
Asus P8p67 B3
RAM:
CMP8GX3M2A1600C9 + E30101B
VGA & cooler:
STRIX GTX1050 TI 4GB
Display:
DELL U2412M x2
HDD:
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, 840 EVO 120GB, F3 HD502HJ
Sound:
CM Storm Sirus-C
Case:
Cooler Master 690 II Advanced
PSU:
Chieftec 750W CTG-750C
Mice & keyboard:
Mx 518 + Razer Tournament Edition
Internet:
50Mb IKOM + Netis WF2710
OS & Browser:
Windows 8.1 Pro , FF
Other:
SS QCK+, Iphone 5s Sim Free
svaka cast .. :D :P
 

OCz

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04.04.2009.
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948
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0
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
i5 750 / Megashadow (lapped) Push-Pull (Scythe GT AP-15)
Motherboard:
Gigabyte P55A-UD6
RAM:
12GB Mushkin & Exceleram
VGA & cooler:
Palit StormX GTX 1050
Display:
LG 32LK450
HDD:
Samsung 840 EVO 128GB & F3 HD153WI
Sound:
Cerwin-Vega! VE-15 / Denon PMA-1500R / AKG K702 / Shanling PH300 / Asus Xonar STX
Case:
Corsair Obsidian 650D
PSU:
Thermaltake Smart SE 530W
Optical drives:
Nemam
Internet:
Imam
OS & Browser:
Windows 8 Pro x64
Kuciste je precenjeno i preveliko, to nije full tower, to je super tower. Inace i ja sam se razmisljao da ga uzmem :D, ali sam brzo odustao od te ideje prvenstveno zbog nenormalne i po mom misljenju nezasluzene cene. A odmah zatim i zbog enormne velicine (to je mnogo vece kuciste od npr. HAF 932) i relativno slabog hladjenja (strujanja vazduha). Za tebe je to kuciste odlicno jer si na vodenom hladjenju, a za to je i predvidjeno. Takodje mi se vise svidja 700D od 800D zbog ciste stranice koja ima potencijal da se napravi mnogo lepse prozorce od onoga na 800D.
 

blackmore1911

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07.02.2010.
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PC / Laptop Name:
BLAIDD DRWG
CPU & cooler:
Intel® Core™ i7-7700K [DE-LIDDED] @ 4.9GHz w/ EKWB EK-Supremacy Evo Elite Edition
Motherboard:
Asus PRIME Z270-A
RAM:
Kingston HyperX Predator Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3466MHz DDR4 CL16
VGA & cooler:
Inno3D GeForce GTX1080 Twin X2 HerculeZ 8GB GDDR5X
Display:
Alienware AW2518HF [240Hz] × LG 24GM79G [144Hz]
HDD:
Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB × Western Digital RED 1TB
Sound:
FiiO K5 Pro + beyerdynamic Custom Studio & Sennheiser HD515
Case:
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic DW w/ 3 x Corsair LL120 × Phobya G-Changer v.2 280/60mm w/ 2 x Corsair ML140
PSU:
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-750FX 750W 80+ Gold
Mice & keyboard:
Razer Deathadder Elite @ SteelSeries QCK Heavy × Razer Huntsman Elite
Internet:
SBB 300/30 Mbps
OS & Browser:
Windows 11 & Opera GX
Other:
iPhone 15 Pro Max 256 GB Midnight Green, EK-XTOP Revo D5 × EK-RES X3 250, Mayhems Ultra Clear Tubing
Zasto ja umesto "slivovati" UVEK procitam "silovati" ? :d
BTW Koliko kosta ovaj Corsair uopste?
 

Steamroller

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22.01.2011.
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9.655
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17
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CPU & cooler:
Intel Core i7 2600K @4.8 w/HT CM Nepton 280L
Motherboard:
Gigabyte Z77X-UP7
RAM:
4x4Gb Patriot @1866MHz
VGA & cooler:
ASUS 280X + Morpheus + 2x NF-F12
Display:
2x Dell U2312HM
HDD:
Samsung 840 Evo 120GB
Sound:
Integruša
Case:
HAF XB
PSU:
Seasonic SS-620GM
Mice & keyboard:
CM Storm Recon White + Genius Imperator
Internet:
Cable 20/2
OS & Browser:
Win 7 64bit
Other:
Fluffy Cat and Dog
Ćuuuuti... Ja Project Thirty (Corsair 600T) worklog, uvek pročitam kao Project Dirty... :D
 

illidan

PCAXE Addicted
Učlanjen(a)
01.04.2009.
Poruka
7.052
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CPU & cooler:
amd 5800x3d, ek nucleus cr240 dark, phanteks t30
Motherboard:
asus rog strix b550-i gaming
RAM:
g.skill trident z neo 32gb
VGA & cooler:
nvidia rtx 4070super founders edition
Display:
asus vg27aql1a
HDD:
samsung 980 pro 1tb, wd black sn770 2tb
Sound:
ifi zen dac v2, presonus eris 3.5, akg k712 pro balanced
Case:
lian li a4 h20
PSU:
corsair sf750 platinum
Mice & keyboard:
lamzu atlantis mini, kbd.fans tofu65 e-white
Internet:
optical cable

neSSa

Modding Guru
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15.08.2010.
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CPU & cooler:
i7 5820k + EKWB
Motherboard:
MSI X99 Mpower
RAM:
16gb HyperX Predator 2666Mhz
VGA & cooler:
SLI - Asus GTX 770 dc2 + EKWB
Display:
Dell 27" IPS
HDD:
Transcend SSD 370s 256Gb RAID0
Case:
"MasterX5" project
PSU:
Cooler Master V1000
Optical drives:
ASUS external
Mice & keyboard:
A4Tech - mouse and keyboard
Internet:
Cable
Other:
PROJEKTI: https://www.facebook.com/sspcmodding
Fina konfa, vazno da dobro ladi, sve ostalo lagano... Kako se taj radijator bori sa procom i grafikom?
 

BEGINER

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01.04.2009.
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CPU & cooler:
Intel Core i5 4440 @ 3.10GHz
Motherboard:
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z97-K
RAM:
16,0GB Kingston Crveni txn Proka
VGA & cooler:
1023MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750
Display:
Neka 24orka, ocekuje se 32
HDD:
Patriot Blast ssd 240
Sound:
pojma neam
Case:
Xigmatek Elysium
PSU:
Seasonic 850w
Optical drives:
pojma neam
Mice & keyboard:
Logi i Logi svasta
Internet:
Ikom 200Mbita
OS & Browser:
Win 7 x64
Other:
MONEY & PUSSY LOVER

blackmore1911

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07.02.2010.
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BLAIDD DRWG
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Intel® Core™ i7-7700K [DE-LIDDED] @ 4.9GHz w/ EKWB EK-Supremacy Evo Elite Edition
Motherboard:
Asus PRIME Z270-A
RAM:
Kingston HyperX Predator Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3466MHz DDR4 CL16
VGA & cooler:
Inno3D GeForce GTX1080 Twin X2 HerculeZ 8GB GDDR5X
Display:
Alienware AW2518HF [240Hz] × LG 24GM79G [144Hz]
HDD:
Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB × Western Digital RED 1TB
Sound:
FiiO K5 Pro + beyerdynamic Custom Studio & Sennheiser HD515
Case:
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic DW w/ 3 x Corsair LL120 × Phobya G-Changer v.2 280/60mm w/ 2 x Corsair ML140
PSU:
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-750FX 750W 80+ Gold
Mice & keyboard:
Razer Deathadder Elite @ SteelSeries QCK Heavy × Razer Huntsman Elite
Internet:
SBB 300/30 Mbps
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Windows 11 & Opera GX
Other:
iPhone 15 Pro Max 256 GB Midnight Green, EK-XTOP Revo D5 × EK-RES X3 250, Mayhems Ultra Clear Tubing

Iv4n

Moderator
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05.01.2010.
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1.171
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CPU & cooler:
Intel Core i5-2500K @ 4.8GHz + EKWB Supreme HF Full Copper
Motherboard:
Asus P8P67
RAM:
16GB Exceleram EBW301A 1600MHz CL9 + Bitspower FullCover Water Block
VGA & cooler:
Asus GTX680 DCII + EKWB FullCover Water block
Display:
Dell U2713HM IPS
HDD:
Samsung 840Evo 250GB
Sound:
Asus Xonar DG & Samson C03U Microphone
Case:
Corsair Obsidian 700D + Swiftech MCR320-QP radijator
PSU:
Seasonic X-750
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G710+ & Logitech G400
Internet:
SBB 70Mbit
OS & Browser:
Win 7 SP1 Ultimate - X64
Fina konfa, vazno da dobro ladi, sve ostalo lagano... Kako se taj radijator bori sa procom i grafikom?
Vrlo dobro. Temperature su odlicne (posebno na grafi) iako su ventilatori na 'silent' 1100RPM modu.
 

Pupo

PCAXE Member
Učlanjen(a)
09.11.2010.
Poruka
104
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3
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
Lenovo ThinkPad E440
CPU & cooler:
3570K - Thermalright Macho black
Motherboard:
MSI Z77 MPower
RAM:
G.Skill Ripjaws Z 1600MHz 2x4GB
VGA & cooler:
MSI GTX960 G2
Display:
Dell U2412M
HDD:
Intel 520 240Gb, 3Tb HDD
Case:
Lian Li A05N
PSU:
Seasonic X-560
Mice & keyboard:
Steelseries 6Gv2, Logitech G600
Internet:
10Mb/s down, 10Mb/s up
OS & Browser:
Win10
Napokon sam opet došao do nekih stvari za vodeno. Ovo je nekakva testna faza, sve je nabrzinu odrađeno :) U odnosu na konfiguraciju prije, promjenio sam Corsa sa Seasonicom X-560. Ovo napajanje je strava, nisam još primjetio vent da se vrti :) Grafa je isto ošla na bubanj, jer hoću grafu koja nije veličine modema :D



setup: EK supreme blok, Swiftech MCR320 - QPK 360mm radijator, Swiftech MCRES-Micro Rev.2 rezervar, Laing D5-Pump 12V D5-Vario pumpa


Nabacao sam sve u kućište, napunio sistem, napravio leak test i tako. Ispostavilo se da je kućište puno premalo iako stane sve unutra. Maloprije sam premjestio rezervoar na drugu lokaciju i uspio sam zatvoriti kućište. Zasada je radijator bez ventova, samo sam u kućište dodao još jednu 140ku da upuhuje na minimalnim okretajima. Ovo nije finalni raspored niti je paženo na detalje, sve je pospajano za probu.
Prvi dojmovi, pa prvo sam bio dosta razočaran u performanse al onda nakon temeljitog pregleda sistema skužio sam da nisam dobro pritegao sve šarafe koji drže blok. Kada sam to rješio, situacija se drastično poboljšala. Pumpa je zvijer, doslovno. Radi mi na najsporijem/najtišem režimu jer nema potrebe za više. Na najjačem režimu pravi balončiće...
U globalu sam jako zadovoljan, samo što će bit jako puno posla da napravim sve kako sam imao zamišljeno, mislio sam da će to lakše ići al ipak ne. No najvažnije da će sve stati unutar kućišta, kako je bilo i zamišljeno
 

fr0wn3r

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29.05.2011.
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Bice to fin build kada sve slozis, potencijal je tu. :)

Fractal ima efikasna i elegantna kucista, steta sto su cesto potcenjivana i sto ih nema u Srbiji, ali dobro je da ih ima u komsiluku. :D
 

Pupo

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09.11.2010.
Poruka
104
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3
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
Lenovo ThinkPad E440
CPU & cooler:
3570K - Thermalright Macho black
Motherboard:
MSI Z77 MPower
RAM:
G.Skill Ripjaws Z 1600MHz 2x4GB
VGA & cooler:
MSI GTX960 G2
Display:
Dell U2412M
HDD:
Intel 520 240Gb, 3Tb HDD
Case:
Lian Li A05N
PSU:
Seasonic X-560
Mice & keyboard:
Steelseries 6Gv2, Logitech G600
Internet:
10Mb/s down, 10Mb/s up
OS & Browser:
Win10

Godzilla

PCAXE Member
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12.12.2010.
Poruka
745
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1
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CPU & cooler:
AMD Phenom II x4 965 @4ghz sa V6GT
Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
RAM:
Exceleram Black Sark 2x2gb 1600mhz
VGA & cooler:
5750 1gb CrossFire (Sapphire i PowerColor)
Display:
Acer AL1916W
HDD:
Western Digital caviar blue 500gb
Case:
Xigmatek Utgard
PSU:
Chieftech CFT 650W
Optical drives:
Samsung 223C
Odlicno!
btw koja je ova grafa?
 

Pupo

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09.11.2010.
Poruka
104
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3
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
Lenovo ThinkPad E440
CPU & cooler:
3570K - Thermalright Macho black
Motherboard:
MSI Z77 MPower
RAM:
G.Skill Ripjaws Z 1600MHz 2x4GB
VGA & cooler:
MSI GTX960 G2
Display:
Dell U2412M
HDD:
Intel 520 240Gb, 3Tb HDD
Case:
Lian Li A05N
PSU:
Seasonic X-560
Mice & keyboard:
Steelseries 6Gv2, Logitech G600
Internet:
10Mb/s down, 10Mb/s up
OS & Browser:
Win10
PoV GTX560, 2Gb model
 

d0minat0r

PCAXE OC team
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01.04.2009.
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3.633
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58
Moja konfiguracija
VGA & cooler:
Gainward 4850 512DDR3
Display:
Viewsonic 24"
HDD:
seagate 500Gt Single P
Case:
/
Optical drives:
Samsung 203D
Mice & keyboard:
A4tech oscar X 748K i microsoft ergo natural 4000
Internet:
ADSL 4Mbit
OS & Browser:
WIN7
Lepo utegnuto :)
 

ostoja88

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01.11.2010.
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409
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2
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CPU & cooler:
intel i3-3225 & LC CC-120
Motherboard:
msi z77ma-g45
RAM:
hyperX 8gb ddr3
VGA & cooler:
hd4000
Display:
dell p2414
HDD:
840evo 250gb + seagate 1TB
PSU:
tt smart 630w
Internet:
ADSL
OS & Browser:
Windows 7
Učlanjen(a)
08.09.2010.
Poruka
398
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1
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Intel i5 6600k 5000mhz EK voda
Motherboard:
ASRock z170 Extrime6+
RAM:
Corsair Vengance 4x4gb LPX 3000mhz
VGA & cooler:
Asus GTX 1080TI EK voda
Display:
Asus VG248 144hz
HDD:
Kingston SSD NVM a1000 240gb, Kingstone SSD UV500 240gb
Sound:
Logitech z506, Logitech g35
Case:
Thermaltake x31
PSU:
Radimax 735w RGB
Optical drives:
SONY NEC OPTIARC AD-5200S
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech MX518 and Logitec G105 MW3
Internet:
SBB
OS & Browser:
windows 7 x64bit...
I meni se djasvi :d
 

neSSa

Modding Guru
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15.08.2010.
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4.062
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CPU & cooler:
i7 5820k + EKWB
Motherboard:
MSI X99 Mpower
RAM:
16gb HyperX Predator 2666Mhz
VGA & cooler:
SLI - Asus GTX 770 dc2 + EKWB
Display:
Dell 27" IPS
HDD:
Transcend SSD 370s 256Gb RAID0
Case:
"MasterX5" project
PSU:
Cooler Master V1000
Optical drives:
ASUS external
Mice & keyboard:
A4Tech - mouse and keyboard
Internet:
Cable
Other:
PROJEKTI: https://www.facebook.com/sspcmodding
pocelo lagano sklapanje sistema...

treca ceka termalne trake a i u pogonu je:D
 

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animaN

Administrator
Urednik
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28.03.2009.
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9.407
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121
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Ci7 3930K@ Coolink CoratorDS
Motherboard:
ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
RAM:
4x4GB Mushkin 1600 MHz cl9, 1.5V
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire HD6950 FleX Edition
Display:
3x Belinea 102035W
HDD:
Corsair ForceGT 120GB SSD,WD AAKS 640 GB, WD MyBook 500GB
Sound:
Realtek ALC889 - Logitech Z2300
Case:
Cooler Master bench table
PSU:
Cooler Master Silent Pro 850W
Optical drives:
USB LiteOn
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G15 - Logitech MX518
Internet:
SBB 10/1 Mbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 7 x64 SP1
Other:
Volim AXE
Opasno izgleda!
 
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