Talking to God...

[JBL]

Za pocetak

Covjek umire i odlazi na nebo. Andjeli mu kazu:" Odvescemo te u raj, ali prvo da ti pokazemo pakao." Odvode ga u prostoriju sa velikom sredisnjom posudom punom kasaste hrane. Oko posude su jadne i gladne osobe. Svaka od njih ima kasiku dugacku po tri metra. Hranu mogu dobaviti, ali je, zbog duzine, ne mogu prinijeti ustima. I tako, ove pateticne osobe gladuju pored izobilja hrane.

Zatim ga andjeli odvode u raj. Na njegovo iznenadjenje, ugleda istu scenu. Ponovo gigantska posuda sa hranom, ponovo ljudi sa kasikama od tri metra. Samo ovi su zadovoljni, sretni, nasmijani i zdravi.

"Zasto? U cemu je razlika da su ovi ljudi sretni i siti?", upitao je andjele.

"Pa zar ne vidis?", upitali su ga.

Kada je pazljivo pogledao primjetio je da svaka osoba hrani kasikom susjednu. "Ovdje ljudi hrane jedni druge. Oni su naucili put ljubavi."

Hhaha kako ovo mrvi

 

[animaN]

Ne kazem ja da zivot ne postoji tamo negde daleko, sigurno postoji, ali ga najverovatnije nikada necemo videti. Putovanje izmedju galaksija ce zauvek ostati utopija. Nema tog goriva i konstrukcije "broda" koja tako nesto moze da izdrzi. Pri tim brzinama, i najmanji asteroid bi prepolovio svemirski brod, ako bi ovaj udario u njega. A kod nas neki mali zeleni u tanjiricima dolaze sa Andromene A-ha...

Reche jedan sasvim obichan ljudski organizam sachinjen od krvi i mesa, odnosno zakona poznatih svakom iole upucenom zemljaninu...
To i jeste problem Shto se sve gleda iz perspektive nama poznatih zakona Ko tebi garantuje da negde u univerzumu ne postoji neko sredstvo koje ce tebe od krvi i mesa pretvoriti u materiju koja nama nije poznata, i kao takvu transportovati nekim sistemom koji nama takodje nije poznat... A da pritom taj sistem postoji koliko i sam univerzum
Ono shto ja potenciram je da ne treba biti iskljuchiv 100%
Inache, sarkazam nije oblik inteligencije vec samo nachin da izrazish svoje negodovanje ka nechemu, a kao i svaki drugi "gotivan trend" vremenom postane dosadan i totalno obichan, a samim tim i nepotreban...

Inache, ja sam ateista, ali stvari o kojima ays pricha, a tu pre svega mislim na 7 grehova su neshto sa chime se mi svakodnevno susrecemo i najcheshce gledamo da izbegnemo iskushenje... ays je pokazao shta je tolerancija Ostali niste...
Poshto Trogdora znam lichno i to veoma dobro (obdanishe, osnovna, srednja, fax, ceo zivot drugovi i faktichki znam sve o njemu i on o meni), imam pitanje za njega

Da li si svestan koliko zapravo nisi svestan shta ays i njemu slichni poimaju pod BOG-om? Jel verujesh da on veruje u bradatog chiku na oblaku?
Izgleda da je meni (ponavljam, ateista sam) jedino jasno na chemu ays zasniva svoju zivotnu filozofiju... Kamo srece da i ostali isto razmishljaju... Ironija je shto i mi ostali imamo slichnu, samo nas "nauka" sprechava da je vidimo i budemo josh bolji ljudi Jer po svemu sudeci smo osudjeni na sami sebe, pa je nekako logichno da svako ludilo na planeti zemlji stane...

 

[Villy]

Ljudi ide li ko na ZDAY u Beogradu 13.marta? Ako ide neko sa sekire biće super.

 

[drfedja]

Izvini, ovu smejuriju sto si napisao nisam video. Opet ponavljam, nista se ne desava samo od sebe, cuda jednostavno ne postoje!

Cuda ne postoje, ali postoji neznanje. Neko ce cudom nazvati nesto sto ne moze da objasni, ali pitanje je izbora reci i pitanje je sta je iza tog objasnjenja. Mozda mislis da si stigao do atomicne definicije i da si svoje obrazlozenje razlozio na aksiome. Veruj mi, nije tako.

To sto si naveo je smesno, atrakcija za nepismene mase. I ko kaze da niko ne moze da ga objasni...

U hramu ima tajni plamenik, odakle se zapali vatra, a opet, dovoljno je recimo da se beli fosfor rastvori u bilo kakvom organskom ratvaracu, koji sporije isparava i sam ce da se zapali na vazduhu, cim rastvarac ispari, a to isparavanje traje pola sata, sat.
Dovoljno je time na vreme natopiti svece i zapalice se taman da se neobrazovana masa uspali.

Mozda pre 2000 godina ljudima nije bas bilo jasno kako i zasto vatra gori. Znalo se da gori, ali zasto gori to je bilo pitanje. Danas kada znamo odgovor na to, postavlja se opet pitanje - kako je zapravo nastao covek, kako je nastao svet u kome zivimo i naucnici opet tragaju za stvarima koje nisu u stanju da objasne. Npr, kako deluje gravitacija. Zna se da deluje i zasto deluje, ali ne zna se zbog cega masa krivi prostor/vreme. To mozemo da tretiramo kao aksiom ili kao CUDO, ali ne mora biti tako. Euklid je pre 2000 godina izmislio geometriju gde postoji prava linija, da bi mnoge druge stvari pretpostavile da je ta ista euklidska geometrija neupotrebljiva pa je upotrebljena hiperbolicka geometrija.

Iz tvoje perspektive univerzum koji posmatras je mozda tacka, mozda je prava linija, a mozda je i u 3 dimenzije, ali izgleda da je mnogo vise od toga.

Ako nije objasnjeno zasto je tako, onda je cudo ? Pa, to "cudo" o kome pricamo ce se stalno otkrivati i to ce biti uvek tako.

Ogroman broj hodocasnika dolazi svake godine da gleda cudo, pa je samim tim i prihod lokalne zajednice i u ovom slucaju dovoljan da se cudo odrzava

Koriscenje religije zarad sticanja materijalne dobiti je uvek bilo i bice prisutno, jer tu istu religiju ne propagiraju bogovi, nego ljudi.
Ljudi mogu da veruju i da budu religiozni, ali to ne znaci da su sektasi ili kojekakva povodljiva rulja koja predstavlja instrument poglavara.

 

[Trogdor]

Ma verujem ja da je on dobar decko i da zeli svima najbolje,ali to moze i bez verovanja u nesto sto ne postoji ! BOG je potpuno izmisljena stvar jer se nekada apsolutno nista nije moglo objasniti,pa su se izmisljale te "pricice" ! A i isto tako ne volim da cujem price "znas ja verujem u boga ali ne bas u ovakvog kakvog crkva propagira ,nego u moju neku verziju itd itd" to je po mom misljenju jos gore ,jer ako verujes u boga koga su izmislili pripadnici raznih religija,veruj onda u njihovu verziju nemoj da izmisljas nesto sto isto tako ne postoji,ali kako tebi odgovara ! Nemoj pogresno da me razumete neka veruje ko u sta hoce,budite i sajentolozi ako hocete ,ali na kraju cete biti razocarani jer NISTA OD TOGA NE POSTOJI !
P.s. kad smo kod sajentologa ,ono u sta oni veruju je isto toliko neverovatno kao i ono sto propagiraju sve druge religije...
P.s. 2 Mozda tako ne zvucim sada ali ja stvarno ne cenim nikoga manje ako veruje u boga,i APSOLUTNO ne pokusavam nikoga da uvredim ili omalovazim,svako ima izbor da veruje u sta hoce ali ovo su jednostavno moji stavovi sto se ove teme tice !

 

[drfedja]

Ma verujem ja da je on dobar decko i da zeli svima najbolje,ali to moze i bez verovanja u nesto sto ne postoji ! BOG je potpuno izmisljena stvar jer se nekada apsolutno nista nije moglo objasniti,pa su se izmisljale te "pricice" ! A i isto tako ne volim da cujem price "znas ja verujem u boga ali ne bas u ovakvog kakvog crkva propagira ,nego u moju neku verziju itd itd" to je po mom misljenju jos gore ,jer ako verujes u boga koga su izmislili pripadnici raznih religija,veruj onda u njihovu verziju nemoj da izmisljas nesto sto isto tako ne postoji,ali kako tebi odgovara ! Nemoj pogresno da me razumete neka veruje ko u sta hoce,budite i sajentolozi ako hocete ,ali na kraju cete biti razocarani jer NISTA OD TOGA NE POSTOJI !

Neko veruje u Boga, a neko u Borga!

U nesto moras verovati. Sumnjam da i sam mislis da je univerzum sazdan iskljucivo od materije. To zapravo nije tacno. Crkva propagira Boga tako sto kaze, Bog je u nama i svuda oko nas.

U vreme kada se nista nije naukom moglo objasniti takve pricice su bile uobicajene, medjutim poenta takve price nije vezana za naucni dokaz postojanja necega, vec za obicnu zivotnu mudrost.


Ja cu vise da cenim npr. Milojka zemljoradnika koji ima zivotnu mudrost i koji je mozda i religiozan, nego nekog obrazovanog otudjenog fakultetski obrazovanog coveka koji ni sam vise ne zna zbog cega su neke stvari u zivotu onakve kakve su.
Milojko je eto vise ispunio svoj zivotni cilj nego vecito nezadovoljni fakultetlija ciji je jedini cilj jurenje za parama i titulama.

 

[Villy]

Ja cu vise da cenim npr. Milojka zemljoradnika koji ima zivotnu mudrost i koji je mozda i religiozan, nego nekog obrazovanog otudjenog fakultetski obrazovanog coveka koji ni sam vise ne zna zbog cega su neke stvari u zivotu onakve kakve su.
Milojko je eto vise ispunio svoj zivotni cilj nego vecito nezadovoljni fakultetlija ciji je jedini cilj jurenje za parama i titulama.

So fuckin true!

 

[animaN]

U vreme kada se nista nije naukom moglo objasniti takve pricice su bile uobicajene, medjutim poenta takve price nije vezana za naucni dokaz postojanja necega, vec za obicnu zivotnu mudrost.

Bravo!
Dodao bih, zivotnu mudrost kojoj se pokorio skoro svako na planeti jer smatra da je ispravna i da je od BOG-a Dakle, BOG nije osoba ili svetac ili shta vec... BOG je svugde oko nas i u nama I ovo shto pricham nema veza sa bilo kojom crkvom i religijom... Ljudi dosta meshaju te stvari...

Inache ja ne smatram da su ljiudi izmislili BOG-a da bi objasnili u tom momentu neobjasnjive stvari... Chovek je davnih dana prestao da evoulira na nivou tela, a uglavnom su se znachjane promene deshavale na nivou mozga. Na zalost, nekada davno je razlika u evolutivnom pomaku neke ljude, da se tako izrazim, zakachila pre od drugih te je BOG izmishljen da bi se onima koji nisu bili dovoljno spremni lako moglo objasniti shta ih cheka ako su greshni i sl. Daleko je lakshe bilo da se takvim marketingom obuzda nedovoljno kvalitetna masa... Jednostavno recheno, sistem karme je star koliko i sam chovek, a BOG je samo jedan oblik iste... U tom momentu potreban da bi se uspostavila kontrola nad pomenutom masom... Primera radi, ako bi PCAXE moderatori napustili ovaj forum na 3 meseca, ja potpisujem da bi korisnici napravili karambol od foruma (ne iz zle namere, ali bi napravili...). Dakle, filozofija je da niko nije iznad komune (BOG-a), dakle niko nije pojedinachno veci od nas samih skupa. Naravno, poglavare morash da imash, jer da ih nema nastao bi haos (istorija nas je nauchila tome ziilon puta), ali isto tako treba da nam bude jasno da nema nezamenljivih i da su svi na na milost i nemilost BOG-u, tj na milost i nemilost svima. Ipak, zloupotreba polozaja je neshto shto je u ljudskoj prirodi Tako da ni crkva nije imuna na to...
Juche sam malo prichao na svu ovu temu sa Miskom78 putem telefona. I on mi reche da je preminulog patrijarha Pavleta jednom prilikom posetio jedan vernik koji mu je objasnio da ga je veche pre toga poseti andjeo i da mu je rekao shta da radi... Pavle je to saslushao bio i na sve to rekao samo: Molim se BOG-u svaki dan, po vishe puta, veliki sam vernik, i nikada mi se do sad nije desilo da me poseti andjeo! Ma, ajte, molim vas...
U fazonu, nije-nego ili u fazonu, ma vazi ali na plazi
Dakle, verovanje u BOG-a je vishe filozofija, ali filozofija koja nam moze pomoci da budemo bolji chovek!

 

[Villy]

Dakle, verovanje u BOG-a je vishe filozofija, ali filozofija koja nam moze pomoci da budemo bolji chovek!

da budemo bolji ljudi valja barem u ovom kontekstu rečenice

 

[S.T.A.R.A.C.]

Bog je imaginarna figura i jedan jako sirok pojam. Ljudi vjeruju u Boga, a vjerovati znaci ne znati. Vise ne vjerujemo da je Zemlja ravna ploca jer znamo da nije.

Naucnici vecinom vjeruju u Boga reda i zakona, no oni i dalje vjeruju jer se puno toga ima za otkriti. Oni nisu stavili tacku na i, kao sto to rade ateisti ili religiozni ljudi.

Univerzum je fraktalan, znaci napravljen od sicusnih "blokova" energije razlicitih frekvencija, zahvaljujuci cemu i imamo vise vrsta materije i ne-materije. Takodjer je napravljen po matematickim zakonima gdje spada i pomenuta "Sakralna geometrija."
Ono sto ljude najvise muci je pitanje svijesti, inteligencije. Je li prvo nastala inteligencija, ili se ona razvila kasnije, ili se sve razvijalo istovremeno? Svijest je takodjer frekvencija.

Ljudi kada nesto hoce napraviti, prvo moraju stvoriti plan, ideju, zelju, pa se onda baciti na posao. Taj zakon mi poznajemo i njegov smo produkt. Kreativizam je naucna cinjenica.
Ovo sto se desava na nasoj planeti je upravo produkt nase svijesti koja je na jako niskom nivou kod apsolutne vecine. Stvoren je takozvani negativni dualizam, dobro-lose, mi-oni, krscanstvo-islam... Evolucija svijesti bi to trebala promijeniti.

Kako je univerzum fraktalan, takva je i svijest. Nasa svijest je dio "Super-svijesti" sto znaci da je svaki pojedinac jednak i da ima isti potencijal. Prema tome dualizam u losem smislu rijeci bi trebao nestati. Ako nestane ili se bar na neki nacin umanji, imamo sanse da prezivimo kao drustvo.

 

[animaN]

da budemo bolji ljudi valja barem u ovom kontekstu rečenice

Da Nesrecno sam se izrazio... Hvala na ispravci!

 

[ays]

Будимо људи. - Патријарх Павле.

 

[Villy]

Jug of Milk! Čega se lik setio

 

[S.T.A.R.A.C.]

The Universe as a Hologram.

Does Objective Reality Exist, Or Is The Universe A Phantasm?

In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris a research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did not hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the face of science.

Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.

Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat is that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect has caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain away Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical explanations.

University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes Aspect's findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and splendidly detailed hologram.

To understand why Bohm makes this startling assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A hologram is a three- dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.

To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the reflected light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area where the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film.

When the film is developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines. But as soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a three-dimensional image of the original object appears.

The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and then illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the entire image of the rose.

Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact version of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a hologram contains all the information possessed by the whole.

The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an entirely new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its history, Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to understand a physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and study its respective parts.

A hologram teaches us that some things in the universe may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart something constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is made, we will only get smaller wholes.

This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and forth, but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are actually extensions of the same fundamental something.

To enable people to better visualize what he means, Bohm offers the following illustration.

Imagine an aquarium containing a fish. Imagine also that you are unable to see the aquarium directly and your knowledge about it and what it contains comes from two television cameras, one directed at the aquarium's front and the other directed at its side.

As you stare at the two television monitors, you might assume that the fish on each of the screens are separate entities. After all, because the cameras are set at different angles, each of the images will be slightly different. But as you continue to watch the two fish, you will eventually become aware that there is a certain relationship between them.

When one turns, the other also makes a slightly different but corresponding turn; when one faces the front, the other always faces toward the side. If you remain unaware of the full scope of the situation, you might even conclude that the fish must be instantaneously communicating with one another, but this is clearly not the case.

This, says Bohm, is precisely what is going on between the subatomic particles in Aspect's experiment.

According to Bohm, the apparent faster-than-light connection between subatomic particles is really telling us that there is a deeper level of reality we are not privy to, a more complex dimension beyond our own that is analogous to the aquarium. And, he adds, we view objects such as subatomic particles as separate from one another because we are seeing only a portion of their reality.

Such particles are not separate "parts", but facets of a deeper and more underlying unity that is ultimately as holographic and indivisible as the previously mentioned rose. And since everything in physical reality is comprised of these "eidolons", the universe is itself a projection, a hologram.

In addition to its phantomlike nature, such a universe would possess other rather startling features. If the apparent separateness of subatomic particles is illusory, it means that at a deeper level of reality all things in the universe are infinitely interconnected.

The electrons in a carbon atom in the human brain are connected to the subatomic particles that comprise every salmon that swims, every heart that beats, and every star that shimmers in the sky.

Everything interpenetrates everything, and although human nature may seek to categorize and pigeonhole and subdivide, the various phenomena of the universe, all apportionments are of necessity artificial and all of nature is ultimately a seamless web.

In a holographic universe, even time and space could no longer be viewed as fundamentals. Because concepts such as location break down in a universe in which nothing is truly separate from anything else, time and three-dimensional space, like the images of the fish on the TV monitors, would also have to be viewed as projections of this deeper order.

At its deeper level reality is a sort of superhologram in which the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously. This suggests that given the proper tools it might even be possible to someday reach into the superholographic level of reality and pluck out scenes from the long-forgotten past.

What else the superhologram contains is an open-ended question. Allowing, for the sake of argument, that the superhologram is the matrix that has given birth to everything in our universe, at the very least it contains every subatomic particle that has been or will be -- every configuration of matter and energy that is possible, from snowflakes to quasars, from blue whales to gamma rays. It must be seen as a sort of cosmic storehouse of "All That Is."

Although Bohm concedes that we have no way of knowing what else might lie hidden in the superhologram, he does venture to say that we have no reason to assume it does not contain more. Or as he puts it, perhaps the superholographic level of reality is a "mere stage" beyond which lies "an infinity of further development".

Bohm is not the only researcher who has found evidence that the universe is a hologram. Working independently in the field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram has also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality.

Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and where memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies have shown that rather than being confined to a specific location, memories are dispersed throughout the brain.

In a series of landmark experiments in the 1920s, brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what portion of a rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how to perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only problem was that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might explain this curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage.

Then in the 1960s Pribram encountered the concept of holography and realized he had found the explanation brain scientists had been looking for. Pribram believes memories are encoded not in neurons, or small groupings of neurons, but in patterns of nerve impulses that crisscross the entire brain in the same way that patterns of laser light interference crisscross the entire area of a piece of film containing a holographic image. In other words, Pribram believes the brain is itself a hologram.

Pribram's theory also explains how the human brain can store so many memories in so little space. It has been estimated that the human brain has the capacity to memorize something on the order of 10 billion bits of information during the average human lifetime (or roughly the same amount of information contained in five sets of the Encyclopaedia Britannica).

Similarly, it has been discovered that in addition to their other capabilities, holograms possess an astounding capacity for information storage--simply by changing the angle at which the two lasers strike a piece of photographic film, it is possible to record many different images on the same surface. It has been demonstrated that one cubic centimeter of film can hold as many as 10 billion bits of information.

Our uncanny ability to quickly retrieve whatever information we need from the enormous store of our memories becomes more understandable if the brain functions according to holographic principles. If a friend asks you to tell him what comes to mind when he says the word "zebra", you do not have to clumsily sort back through some gigantic and cerebral alphabetic file to arrive at an answer. Instead, associations like "striped", "horselike", and "animal native to Africa" all pop into your head instantly.

Indeed, one of the most amazing things about the human thinking process is that every piece of information seems instantly cross- correlated with every other piece of information--another feature intrinsic to the hologram. Because every portion of a hologram is infinitely interconnected with every other portion, it is perhaps nature's supreme example of a cross-correlated system.

The storage of memory is not the only neurophysiological puzzle that becomes more tractable in light of Pribram's holographic model of the brain. Another is how the brain is able to translate the avalanche of frequencies it receives via the senses (light frequencies, sound frequencies, and so on) into the concrete world of our perceptions.

Encoding and decoding frequencies is precisely what a hologram does best. Just as a hologram functions as a sort of lens, a translating device able to convert an apparently meaningless blur of frequencies into a coherent image, Pribram believes the brain also comprises a lens and uses holographic principles to mathematically convert the frequencies it receives through the senses into the inner world of our perceptions.

An impressive body of evidence suggests that the brain uses holographic principles to perform its operations. Pribram's theory, in fact, has gained increasing support among neurophysiologists.

Argentinian-Italian researcher Hugo Zucarelli recently extended the holographic model into the world of acoustic phenomena. Puzzled by the fact that humans can locate the source of sounds without moving their heads, even if they only possess hearing in one ear, Zucarelli discovered that holographic principles can explain this ability.

Zucarelli has also developed the technology of holophonic sound, a recording technique able to reproduce acoustic situations with an almost uncanny realism.

Pribram's belief that our brains mathematically construct "hard" reality by relying on input from a frequency domain has also received a good deal of experimental support.

It has been found that each of our senses is sensitive to a much broader range of frequencies than was previously suspected.

Researchers have discovered, for instance, that our visual systems are sensitive to sound frequencies, that our sense of smell is in part dependent on what are now called "osmic frequencies", and that even the cells in our bodies are sensitive to a broad range of frequencies. Such findings suggest that it is only in the holographic domain of consciousness that such frequencies are sorted out and divided up into conventional perceptions.

But the most mind-boggling aspect of Pribram's holographic model of the brain is what happens when it is put together with Bohm's theory. For if the concreteness of the world is but a secondary reality and what is "there" is actually a holographic blur of frequencies, and if the brain is also a hologram and only selects some of the frequencies out of this blur and mathematically transforms them into sensory perceptions, what becomes of objective reality?

Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the religions of the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion, and although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical world, this too is an illusion.

We are really "receivers" floating through a kaleidoscopic sea of frequency, and what we extract from this sea and transmogrify into physical reality is but one channel from many extracted out of the superhologram.

This striking new picture of reality, the synthesis of Bohm and Pribram's views, has come to be called the holographic paradigm, and although many scientists have greeted it with skepticism, it has galvanized others. A small but growing group of researchers believe it may be the most accurate model of reality science has arrived at thus far. More than that, some believe it may solve some mysteries that have never before been explainable by science and even establish the paranormal as a part of nature.

Numerous researchers, including Bohm and Pribram, have noted that many para-psychological phenomena become much more understandable in terms of the holographic paradigm.

In a universe in which individual brains are actually indivisible portions of the greater hologram and everything is infinitely interconnected, telepathy may merely be the accessing of the holographic level.

It is obviously much easier to understand how information can travel from the mind of individual 'A' to that of individual 'B' at a far distance point and helps to understand a number of unsolved puzzles in psychology. In particular, Grof feels the holographic paradigm offers a model for understanding many of the baffling phenomena experienced by individuals during altered states of consciousness.

In the 1950s, while conducting research into the beliefs of LSD as a psychotherapeutic tool, Grof had one female patient who suddenly became convinced she had assumed the identity of a female of a species of prehistoric reptile. During the course of her hallucination, she not only gave a richly detailed description of what it felt like to be encapsuled in such a form, but noted that the portion of the male of the species's anatomy was a patch of colored scales on the side of its head.

What was startling to Grof was that although the woman had no prior knowledge about such things, a conversation with a zoologist later confirmed that in certain species of reptiles colored areas on the head do indeed play an important role as triggers of sexual arousal.

The woman's experience was not unique. During the course of his research, Grof encountered examples of patients regressing and identifying with virtually every species on the evolutionary tree (research findings which helped influence the man-into-ape scene in the movie Altered States). Moreover, he found that such experiences frequently contained obscure zoological details which turned out to be accurate.

Regressions into the animal kingdom were not the only puzzling psychological phenomena Grof encountered. He also had patients who appeared to tap into some sort of collective or racial unconscious. Individuals with little or no education suddenly gave detailed descriptions of Zoroastrian funerary practices and scenes from Hindu mythology. In other categories of experience, individuals gave persuasive accounts of out-of-body journeys, of precognitive glimpses of the future, of regressions into apparent past-life incarnations.

In later research, Grof found the same range of phenomena manifested in therapy sessions which did not involve the use of drugs. Because the common element in such experiences appeared to be the transcending of an individual's consciousness beyond the usual boundaries of ego and/or limitations of space and time, Grof called such manifestations "transpersonal experiences", and in the late '60s he helped found a branch of psychology called "transpersonal psychology" devoted entirely to their study.

Although Grof's newly founded Association of Transpersonal Psychology garnered a rapidly growing group of like-minded professionals and has become a respected branch of psychology, for years neither Grof or any of his colleagues were able to offer a mechanism for explaining the bizarre psychological phenomena they were witnessing. But that has changed with the advent of the holographic paradigm.

As Grof recently noted, if the mind is actually part of a continuum, a labyrinth that is connected not only to every other mind that exists or has existed, but to every atom, organism, and region in the vastness of space and time itself, the fact that it is able to occasionally make forays into the labyrinth and have transpersonal experiences no longer seems so strange.

The holographic prardigm also has implications for so-called hard sciences like biology. Keith Floyd, a psychologist at Virginia Intermont College, has pointed out that if the concreteness of reality is but a holographic illusion, it would no longer be true to say the brain produces consciousness. Rather, it is consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain -- as well as the body and everything else around us we interpret as physical.

Such a turnabout in the way we view biological structures has caused researchers to point out that medicine and our understanding of the healing process could also be transformed by the holographic paradigm. If the apparent physical structure of the body is but a holographic projection of consciousness, it becomes clear that each of us is much more responsible for our health than current medical wisdom allows. What we now view as miraculous remissions of disease may actually be due to changes in consciousness which in turn effect changes in the hologram of the body.

Similarly, controversial new healing techniques such as visualization may work so well because in the holographic domain of thought images are ultimately as real as "reality".

Even visions and experiences involving "non-ordinary" reality become explainable under the holographic paradigm. In his book "Gifts of Unknown Things," biologist Lyall Watson discribes his encounter with an Indonesian shaman woman who, by performing a ritual dance, was able to make an entire grove of trees instantly vanish into thin air. Watson relates that as he and another astonished onlooker continued to watch the woman, she caused the trees to reappear, then "click" off again and on again several times in succession.

Although current scientific understanding is incapable of explaining such events, experiences like this become more tenable if "hard" reality is only a holographic projection.

Perhaps we agree on what is "there" or "not there" because what we call consensus reality is formulated and ratified at the level of the human unconscious at which all minds are infinitely interconnected.

If this is true, it is the most profound implication of the holographic paradigm of all, for it means that experiences such as Watson's are not commonplace only because we have not programmed our minds with the beliefs that would make them so. In a holographic universe there are no limits to the extent to which we can alter the fabric of reality.

What we perceive as reality is only a canvas waiting for us to draw upon it any picture we want. Anything is possible, from bending spoons with the power of the mind to the phantasmagoric events experienced by Castaneda during his encounters with the Yaqui brujo don Juan, for magic is our birthright, no more or less miraculous than our ability to compute the reality we want when we are in our dreams.

Indeed, even our most fundamental notions about reality become suspect, for in a holographic universe, as Pribram has pointed out, even random events would have to be seen as based on holographic principles and therefore determined. Synchronicities or meaningful coincidences suddenly makes sense, and everything in reality would have to be seen as a metaphor, for even the most haphazard events would express some underlying symmetry.

Whether Bohm and Pribram's holographic paradigm becomes accepted in science or dies an ignoble death remains to be seen, but it is safe to say that it has already had an influence on the thinking of many scientists. And even if it is found that the holographic model does not provide the best explanation for the instantaneous communications that seem to be passing back and forth between subatomic particles, at the very least, as noted by Basil Hiley, a physicist at Birbeck College in London, Aspect's findings "indicate that we must be prepared to consider radically new views of reality".

 

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Starac style:

http://www.ted.com/talks/pranav_mistry_the_thrilling_potential_of_sixthsense_technology.html

 

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Starac style:

http://www.ted.com/talks/pranav_mistry_the_thrilling_potential_of_sixthsense_technology.html

To je ljepota Prane Inace Indijci kosmicku energiju zovu Prana. A Pranav Mistry ima zanimljivo ime

Ali ova "tehnologija" je jos zanimljivija:

The Super Psychic Children.

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/oct1/psychics.htm