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1. Sta treba znati kada se radi o ssd uredjajima:
-Pozeljno je da ssd uredjaje nikada ne napunite do kraja jer su skloni usporavanju(pogotovu brzina upisa),znaci gledajte da uvek imate preko 10gb slobodnog prostora na vasem ssd-u kako bi trim funkcija nesmetano funkcionisala.
-Ssd u principu ima tendenciju da se uspori tokom izvesnog vremena(period od 5+ meseci) pa ako dodje do primetnog usporavanja, pozeljno je odraditi "secure erase" i tada vratiti backup koji ste napravili.


2. Sta raditi kada kupite novi ssd drive?


-Udjete u bios vaseg racunara i ukljucite ahci mode za kontroler(ahci)
-Instalirajte windows 7 i podignite novi windows.
-Kada podignite windows intalrijate drajvere koji idu uz vasu plocu za sata kontroler.(amd,intel,marvell,jmicron itd)
-Slede tweakovanja za windows kako bi vas novi ssd najoptimalnije radio u windows 7 okruzenju:


Dsable indexing
Description: Indexing creates and maintains a database of file attributes. This can lead to multiple small writes when creating/deleting/modifying files. Searching for files will still work.
Instructions: Start Menu -> Right-Click Computer -> Manage -> Services and Applications -> Services - > Right-Click Windows Search -> Startup type: Disabled -> OK

Disable defragmentation
Description: Defragmenting a hard disk's used space is only useful on mechanical disks with multi-millisecond latencies. Free-space defragmentation may be useful to SSDs, but this feature is not available in the default Windows Defragmenter.
Instructions: Start Menu -> Right-Click Computer -> Manage -> Services and Applications -> Services - > Right-Click Disk Defragmenter -> Startup type: Disabled -> OK

Disable Write Caching
Description: There is no cache on the SSD, so there are no benefits to write caching. There are conflicting reports on whether this gains speed or not.
Instructions: Start Menu -> Right-Click Computer -> Manage -> Device Manager -> Disk drives
-> Right-Click STEC PATA -> Properties -> Policies Tab -> Uncheck Enable write caching -> OK

Configure Superfetch
Open regedit.exe and browse down to the following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters

Find the EnablePrefetcher key on the right-hand pane, and change the value to one of these:

Disable Caching: 0
Cache Applications Only: 1
Cache Boot Files Only: 2
Cache Everything (default): 3

A restart is required before this takes any effect.
Also you can clear out the \Windows\Prefetch folder after making this change to
start with a fresh prefetcher cache, the next boot will probably be slower since
Windows will have to cache everything again.

Firefox - Use memory cache instead of disk cache

Description: If you use Firefox, there's a way to write cached files to RAM instead of the hard disk. This is not only faster, but will significantly reduce writes to the SSD while using the browser.
Instructions: Open Firefox -> Type about:config into the address bar -> Enter -> double-click browser.cache.disk.enable to set the value to False -> Right-Click anywhere -> New -> Integer -> Preference Name "disk.cache.memory.capacity" -> value memory size in KB. Enter 32768 for 32MB, 65536 for 64MB, 131072 for 128MB, etc. -> restart Firefox

ili ukoliko necete da radite preko ram memorije i ovo ume dosta da pomogne

Another good tweak that you didn't mention is to disable thumbnail caching in Windows Explorer. This will stop Windows from writing thumbs.db files all over the place. Here's how:

- Click Start
- Type "gpedit.msc" and press Enter
- Local Computer Policy -> User Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Explorer
- Double-click "Turn off caching of thumbnails in hidden thumbs.db files"
- Click "Enabled"
- Click "OK"
- Close "Local Group Policy Editor"

Oslobodite dodatni prostor

Disable the Page File
Description: Eliminate writing memory to the SSD, free over 2GB of disk space. Warning - If you run out of memory the program you're using will crash.
Instructions: Start Menu -> Right-Click Computer -> Properties -> Advanced System Settings -> Settings (Performance) -> Advanced Tab -> Change -> Uncheck Automatically manage -> No paging file -> Set -> OK -> Restart your computer
Alternatively, if you want to play it safer, you can set a custom size of 200MB min and max.

Disable System Restore
Description: Don't write backup copies of files when installing new programs or making system changes. Can free up between a few hundred MB to a couple GB. Warning - Although unlikely, if a driver installation corrupts your system, there won't be an automatic way to recover.
Instructions: Start Menu -> Right-Click Computer -> Properties -> Advanced System Settings -> System Protection Tab -> Configure -> Turn off system protection -> Delete -> OK

Disable Hibernate
Description: You may free up 1GB of space on the SSD if you have 1GB of memory, 2GB of space if you have 2GB memory. You will lose the hibernation feature which allows the equivalent of quick boots and shutdowns.
Instructions: Start Menu -> Type cmd -> Right-Click the cmd Icon -> Run as Administrator -> Type powercfg -h off -> Type exit

Od dodatnih programa za optimizaciju ssd uredjaja koristimo http://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=SSD-Tweaker koji sadrzi u sebi dodatne tweakove i lako se koristi(opcija auto tweak settings)
Napomena: Paid verzija programa sadrzi dodatne tweakove u sebi kao i initiate trim funkciju koja moze biti korisna;)

Kada sve zavrsite i podesite vreme je da napravite backup sa jednim od programa kao sto su Acronis,Ghost,Paragon partition manager(bootabilni flash ili dvd i opcija backup hdd to image(image mozete smestiti na dvd ili drugi hdd(moze i usb externi hdd) ako imate isti u systemu.
Tutorijali kako i sta postoje na google-u u zavisnosti od programa koji izaberete.

Ukoliko vam posle nekog vremena dodje do gore navedenog usporavanja ,treba uraditi "secure erase"(svi podaci ce biti obrisani nakon cega cete vratiti backup koji ste napravili) sa programom parted magic.

Instalacija parted magic-a na usb flash drive:

-Skinite gparted sa http://sourceforge.net/projects/partedmagic/ i unetbootin
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

-Odpakujte gparted zip u neki folder i pokrenite unetbootin-win-549.exe.
-Promenite izbor iz "distribution " na " Diskimage " i kliknite na dugme za odabir i izaberite Magic ISO koji ste u koraku pre raspakovali . Nakon odabira ISO datoteke , podesite ispravnu oznaku disk jedinice na USB fleš disk i kliknite na dugme OK. (napomena,svi podaci sa flesha ce biti obrisani pri pravljenu bootabilnog flesa)


Program i ilustrovano uputsvo kako obrisati vas ssd(PARTED MAGIC)

-Kada ste napravili bootabilni flash, podesite u biosu da vam racunar podize prvo usb flash drive,ukljucite ahci mode u bios-u i startujte gparted magic koji ste malocas napravili.
*Na nekim plocama nije moguce secure erase-ovati ssd ako je u ahci mode(parted magic vam ne prepozna ssd) tako da na njima morate podesiti ide mode u bios-u*

- Idite na system tools-erase disk


- Izaberite poslednju stavku("Internal:Secure Erase command writes zeroes to entire data area) i kliknite continue


-Izabeite vas ssd iz liste i kliknite ok


*U slucaju da dobijete poruku da je vas ssd u "frozen state-u" mozete probati da stavite racunar u sleep mode pa da ga probudite a ako vam to ne pomogne onda mozete raskaciti struju do ssd uredjaja na par sekundi(dok ste u parted magic-u) i vratiti kabl natrag*



-Kada prodjete tak korak kliknite na ok i ostavite po defaultu da pise null.



-Poslednji korak ostaje da potvrdite sa yes(da li ste sigurni da zelite da izbrisete vas ssd)



-Sacekajte par sekundi(minuta) i uspesno ste secure erase-ovali vas ssd!



Zahvaljujem se clanovima sekire i jos par sajtova na sakupljenom materijalu:wave:


Jedna korisna opcija za vlasnike SSDova....

Pokrenite command prompt ili Win + R > cmd kucajte....

Tu kucajte: dism /online /cleanup-image /spsuperseded

Opcija služi za brisanje backup podatka koje su stvorene za vreme instalacije Servis Pack-a 1.

Ovo radi samo ako je instaliran Win7, pa naknadno SP1. Ako je instaliran Win7 sa već ugrađenim SP1 onda ova komanda neće dati rezultate.



:sekira:
 
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Dodao bih samo za one koji instaliraju SP na Win da obrisu preuzete zakrpe (nakon instalacije istih) i oslobode znatan prostor na ssd'u. Pogotovu oni sa SSD'om manjeg kapaciteta. Brisanje sadržaja User i Windows TEMP foldera takodje moze osloboditi dosta prostora.
 

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Sinoc sam sve podesio po ovom tutorijalu i zadovoljan sam sa svojim SSD-om. Da li kobatz ili neko drugi moze da postavi podesavanja za Operu kao sto je ovo za Firefox.
"Firefox - Use memory cache instead of disk cache
Description: If you use Firefox, there's a way to write cached files to RAM instead of the hard disk. This is not only faster, but will significantly reduce writes to the SSD while using the browser.
Instructions: Open Firefox -> Type about:config into the address bar -> Enter -> double-click browser.cache.disk.enable to set the value to False -> Right-Click anywhere -> New -> Integer -> Preference Name "disk.cache.memory.capacity" -> value memory size in KB. Enter 32768 for 32MB, 65536 for 64MB, 131072 for 128MB, etc. -> restart Firefox"
 

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Napravis RAM Disk i podesis putanju? Ja se iskreno ne bih zamlacivao sa time... Nema Boga da ti SSD crkne zbog previse upisa. Moj SSD je imao 1TB upisa do sad (2000 radnih sati), a po SSDLife Health mu je i dalje na 100% :)
 
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Oslobodite još mesta ako ste instalirali SP1 na Win7 kao update i dajte slobodnog mesta vašem SSD-u.
Startujete cmd kao Administrator i pokrenite

dism /online /cleanup-image /spsuperseded

Oslobadja se oko 2GB prostora minimum. Nakon ovoga neće biti moguće deinstalirati SP1! (a zašto bi to neko i radio?)

Može i na drugi GUI način: Startovati Windows-ov Disk cleaner kao admin i čekirati opciju Service Pack Backup files, a možete i josš neke, i pustiti clean da odradi posao.

Evo kako se prazni %windir%\winsxs\ManifestCache\ koji skuplja one bla,bla....blob.bin fajlove, koji su zanli da se naduvaju u Visti ili win2k8 mašinama ali treba proveriti kako je stanje i na win7. Meni nije ovo trebalo.

You may refer to the following steps to remove the file under the %windir%\winsxs\ManifestCache\ to release some disk space that the WinSXS folder takes.

Run the following commands from an elevated command prompt:

Net stop trustedinstaller

NOTE: Wait for it to stop and ensure it stops successfully. If you are unable to stop the service, you may need to restart your machine.

Takeown /f %windir%\winsxs\ManifestCache\*
Icacls %windir%\winsxs\ManifestCache\* /GRANT administrators:F
Del /q %windir%\winsxs\ManifestCache\

Instalirane zakrpe koje skida Win update možete takođe da obrišete ili premestite na HDD tako što se ugasi Windows Update (servis) i sadržaj dira %windir%\SoftwareDistribution\Download premestite na HDD ili obrišete.

Još jedan twaek.
Isključite Recycle Bin(desni klik pa opcije,..ma lako se nalazi) na particiji sa SSD-om ako ste sigurni kad brišete. Čuvajte ssd od bespotrebnih upisa.


Možda su malo više Windows optimizacije ali ko kuburi s prostorom na SSD-u pa i HDD-u moćiće da ga sredi i da mu prostora da diše.

Ja sa iskreno posle prebacivanja sistema na S830 uspeo da izvičem par GB prostora i tako smanjim popunjenost ssd-a sa ~60% na ~50%.

Za kraj ono što ide na početku :)

SSD Alignment (jer stoji u temi a nigde ga nema, cak ima i typo :) )
Iako će verovatno win7 ili neki drugi alati uraditi align kako treba ali evo sigurice.

The easiest way to align an SSD is to create an aligned partition on the SSD with the help of Diskpart. Open an elevated command prompt and run the following sequence of commands – each line followed by Enter.

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n (where n is the number that was given for your SSD in List disk)
Clean
Create partition primary align=1024
Format fs=ntfs quick
Active (assuming you want to install an OS)
Exit

Note: If you want to create a 100MB partition with alignment, the create command is:

Create partition primary size=100 align=1024

The size unit is always MB.

Verification

If you want to verify the alignment (e.g. for a SSD where you are not certain whether the proper alignment was done), you use the following commands.

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n
List partition

Now you should see a result like this.

Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary 59 GB 1024 KB - but 64KB or any number divisible by 4 is also good

The offset (in KBs) has to be divisible by 4.


Note: Some readers and users of this tutorial got confused because the alignment numbers in a typical Windows7 installation are shown as:

1024KB for the 100MB partition
101MB for the next partition - which is most likely the C partition

They think that 101MB is not divisible by 4 and that there must be a problem. But that is not so. If you convert 101MBs into KBs (multiply by 1024), then the number is divisible by 4 and the partition is aligned.
 
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Kod mene SSD daje bolje rezultate kada se write caching ne iskljuci, vec ostavi ukljucen kako i jeste po default.
 

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Kod mene obrnuto,kazu da je totalno drugacije kod svakog korisnika :)
Inace sto se tice ssd alignment-a svako ko instalira windows7 i pravi particiju na pocetku ce imati ok align-nikakvi alati dodatni nisu potrebni;)
Problem je samo sa xp korisnicima posto xp po defaultu lose alignuje ssd-ove pa se mora to posle ispraviti zbog performansi...
Sto se toga tice-znam samo jednog coveka koji idalje ima xp i koristi ssd(prinudjen zbog posla)
 

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Haha kobac grbo tek sad skontah da si moju sticky temu editovao i pripisao sebi zasluge :P :D

btw jel se pojavio neki program koji mize sve ovo odjednom da odradi da nemoram da idem stavku po stavku iz nabrojanog gore?!
 
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SSD Tweaker moze da zavrsi dosta stvari jednim klikom.
 

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Haha kobac grbo tek sad skontah da si moju sticky temu editovao i pripisao sebi zasluge :P :D

btw jel se pojavio neki program koji mize sve ovo odjednom da odradi da nemoram da idem stavku po stavku iz nabrojanog gore?!
Kako sebi,pogledaj sta pise na kraju I dal se program koji tebi treba spominje...:)samo juris zenske a da procitas ceo post te mrzi:))))

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kobatz: Sto je najgore sve sam procitao i video, al bilo jace od mene da te isprozivam malo :*

Moj SSD je imao 1TB upisa do sad (2000 radnih sati)
Pa sta je tu cudno, 1TB upisa je nista, posto ima trim prakticno si svaku celiju prepisao oko 18x a po specifikacijama je oko 20k ili 50k ako se ne varam ;)
 
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Kako si zadovoljan ssd-om ?
 

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Jel postoji neko da nije zadovoljan ssd-om...pogotovo kad predje sa 5400 obrtaja...pogotovo jos kad je pre tih 5400 obrtaja godinu dana koristio ssd ;)
 

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Pa sta je tu cudno, 1TB upisa je nista, posto ima trim prakticno si svaku celiju prepisao oko 18x a po specifikacijama je oko 20k ili 50k ako se ne varam ;)
Ma nije tu nista cudno, nego ljudi tripuju da ce SSD da crkne ako ga koriste na nacin na koji su to vec navikli. Sad treba zbog wearing-a da sklanjam browser cache sa SSD-a? Ocu briga me (u nedostatku bezobraznije reci :d). Svoj primer sam uzeo kao proizvoljan.

PS nije TRIM odgovoran za ravnomeran upis, vec wear leveling ;)
 

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Kaže:

Configure Superfetch
Open regedit.exe and browse down to the following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters

Find the EnablePrefetcher key on the right-hand pane, and change the value to one of these:

Disable Caching: 0
Cache Applications Only: 1
Cache Boot Files Only: 2
Cache Everything (default): 3

Koji da stavim?
Da stavim disabled?
 

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Ja ga drzim na disable,to radi i onaj programcic dole(ssd tweaker)(mozes klikom da ugasis prefetcher)
Preporucuje se da se disable-uje jer nema nikakvog benefita na ssd-ovima...
 

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Koliko je bitno da se isključi pagefile? Jer na primer.... ne mogu ništa arhivirati što je malo veće. Hoću da spakujem sa 7zip-om 1.2Gb stvari i saopšti mi da nemam dovoljno memorije...
 

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Ali čemu isključivanje page file-a? Zar nije baš fora da pagefile bude na SSD-u da bi OS radio brže?
 

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Ali čemu isključivanje page file-a? Zar nije baš fora da pagefile bude na SSD-u da bi OS radio brže?
Jeste to, ali nekako smo dobili fobiju da će da rikne SSD zbog limitoranog broja upisa, kad počne Windows da švrlja po page-u. Ne znam ni ja da li je to baš tako ili su nas naplašili s tom pričom.
 
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