• Apgrejdovali smo forum na XenForo 2.1.1, ukoliko imate predloga vezanih za izgled ili funkcionalnost foruma, ili ukoliko naletite na neki problem, javite nam OVDE

    DEFINISALI SMO PRAVILA FORUMA. Pročitajte ih, pojaviće se automatski kada krenete da čitate nešto!

Pitanja za razvojni tim AMD/ATI GPU-ova

animaN

Administrator
Urednik
Učlanjen(a)
28.03.2009.
Poruka
9.400
Rezultat reagovanja
102
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Ci7 3930K@ Coolink CoratorDS
Motherboard:
ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
RAM:
4x4GB Mushkin 1600 MHz cl9, 1.5V
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire HD6950 FleX Edition
Display:
3x Belinea 102035W
HDD:
Corsair ForceGT 120GB SSD,WD AAKS 640 GB, WD MyBook 500GB
Sound:
Realtek ALC889 - Logitech Z2300
Case:
Cooler Master bench table
PSU:
Cooler Master Silent Pro 850W
Optical drives:
USB LiteOn
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G15 - Logitech MX518
Internet:
SBB 10/1 Mbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 7 x64 SP1
Other:
Volim AXE
Dragi PCAXE forumaši,

PCAXE redakcija je doshla na ideju da napravi mail intervju sa ljudima i AMD-ATI GPU razvojnog tima, a evo nekih od pitanja koje bi smo kao komuna postavili. Naravno, razlog zbog koga smo postovali ovu temu je taj da mozda neshto nismo propustili, pa nas ispravite. Pitanje mozete da postavite i na srpskom, bitno je samo da imamo shto vishe pitanja, a sam intervju cemo objaviti na PCAXE portalu.
Cilj ove teme i intervjua je skretanja paznje inzinjerima ATI-a na propuste shto hardverske shto softverske.

:sekira:

1. Are you planning to reorganize CCC?

Ati CCC in version 8 was looking a bit ugly but some options were more user friendly. Example od that was making available GPU picture scalling (stretching to screen edges with keeping ratio). In version 9 they made that option so complicated that makes no sense at all.

2. Are you gonna make possible forcing of AA modes that always working

Its happening that when you forcing AA from CCC thats not working if game is not supported by driver. Examle of that is BORDERLANDS which is using UT3 engine and does not permit setting AA modes from the game. If you don’t rename EXE file from borderlands.exe to UT3. exe forcing AA from CCC is useless.

3. Are the problems with series HD 5xxx software or the hardware nature?
4. Profiles and shimmering?

Are you planning to make profiles same as nVIDIA, to be precise that they automatically open when they recognize some EXE file and to return to default profile when you close that EXE file. At the moment everything is manual and makes things harder.
Are you going to solve shimmering problems with old games?

5. Are you planning to enable setting up card at 3D clocks if you start up some 3D application in window?

At the moment when you start up game in “window mode” card does not automatically set up 3D clock.

6. Are you planning to make side port available on the X2 cards sometime in the future?

5970 and 4870X2 got direct connection between GPU’s which has never been enabled through drivers.

7. Will Catalyst in the future be able to balance load in CFX regimes?

When we start up two applications that are using GPU at the same time and we have X2 card/CF/CFX setup will driver be able to run each application on different GPU’s?

8. Will AVIVO video converting be improved in the future?

Are you planning to improve converting quality and speed? Will ever that application going to support multi GPU’s?

9. Will ATi Stream have the same progression as CUDA?

Many programmers share the opinion that support for STREAM programming is much worse than in CUDA . Much more software supports acceleration over CUDA than over STREAM.
 

Diabolique

PCAXE OC team
Učlanjen(a)
01.04.2009.
Poruka
2.705
Rezultat reagovanja
1
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
E5200
Motherboard:
P5Q
RAM:
2x2GB
VGA & cooler:
5770
Display:
DIY Projektor
HDD:
10001FALS, 10EACS, 10EADS
Sound:
Audigy@Z5500
Case:
Generic
PSU:
CM 450 RP
Optical drives:
Pioneer 215D
Mice & keyboard:
MS Natural 4000, MX1100R
Internet:
IKOM 2Mb
OS & Browser:
Win XP
Treće pitanje je nepotpuno, deluje kao da im je cela serija 5 neispravna. Pretpostavljam da se misli na gray screen of death.
 

Lukija

PCAXE Eminent Guru
Učlanjen(a)
13.04.2009.
Poruka
2.564
Rezultat reagovanja
0
Moja konfiguracija
Thumbs up zbog #4. Ja bih pod tom tackom dodao - implementation of negative LOD bias clamp (u prevodu da dodaju opciju koja je on/off) koja moze da speci shimmering.
 

animaN

Administrator
Urednik
Učlanjen(a)
28.03.2009.
Poruka
9.400
Rezultat reagovanja
102
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Ci7 3930K@ Coolink CoratorDS
Motherboard:
ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
RAM:
4x4GB Mushkin 1600 MHz cl9, 1.5V
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire HD6950 FleX Edition
Display:
3x Belinea 102035W
HDD:
Corsair ForceGT 120GB SSD,WD AAKS 640 GB, WD MyBook 500GB
Sound:
Realtek ALC889 - Logitech Z2300
Case:
Cooler Master bench table
PSU:
Cooler Master Silent Pro 850W
Optical drives:
USB LiteOn
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G15 - Logitech MX518
Internet:
SBB 10/1 Mbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 7 x64 SP1
Other:
Volim AXE
Thumbs up zbog #4. Ja bih pod tom tackom dodao - implementation of negative LOD bias clamp (u prevodu da dodaju opciju koja je on/off) koja moze da speci shimmering.
Iskreno, mislim da smo to u tvojim postovima primetili pa ubacili ;)

:wave:
 

ZoNi

Free SW Guru
Učlanjen(a)
25.04.2009.
Poruka
3.254
Rezultat reagovanja
0
Moja konfiguracija
Ovakvu ideju apsolutno podržavam (iako za većinu pitanja ne'am pojma o čemu pričaju :D eto, morao sam da guglam, da vidim šta je Ati CCC, iako imam Ati i na poslu u desktopu i kući u laptopu ;) )
 

mINUS

PCAXE Addicted
Učlanjen(a)
01.04.2009.
Poruka
2.353
Rezultat reagovanja
3
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Phenom II [email protected] + Prolimatech Megahalems
Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4
RAM:
12GB DDR3 HyperX 1600
VGA & cooler:
MSI GTX660 Twin Frozr
Display:
Benq G2420HD 24"
HDD:
SSD 840EVO 250GB, 2x1TB Samsung
Sound:
Audigy 4 + Altec MX5021 + Sennheiser HD555@HD595
Case:
CM HAF932 + Zalman MFC1 Plus
PSU:
Chieftec APS-750C Modular
Optical drives:
Pioneer DVR-216D 20x DVD-RW
Mice & keyboard:
MS Sidewinder + Logitech ultraX
Internet:
30+ MGbit
OS & Browser:
Win 8.1 x64
Other:
Nexus 4
"4. Are you going to solve shimmering problems with old games?"

Ne desava se samo u starijim igrama, primetno je bilo i u Dragon Age.

"8. Will AVIVO video converting be improved in the future?"

Da li ce Avivo podrzavati jos formata na koje je moguce kovertovati finalni video. (Xvid, DivX)
 
Poslednja izmena:

SORD

PCAXE Member
Učlanjen(a)
03.04.2009.
Poruka
650
Rezultat reagovanja
1
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Intel C2D E8400 - MegaHalems + Noctua NF-P12
Motherboard:
MSI G41-P28 shit
RAM:
Kingston HyperX 2x4GB DDR3
VGA & cooler:
Gainward GTX465 unlock -> GTX470
Display:
Samsung BX 2231
Case:
Cooler Master HAF 932
PSU:
Powered by Cooler Master UCP 1100
Mice & keyboard:
Razer Lachesis Phantom white & Razer Arctosa
Sredite malo gramatiku.
 

CooLa

I didn't ask for this
Učlanjen(a)
02.03.2009.
Poruka
1.277
Rezultat reagovanja
55
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
Mainframe
CPU & cooler:
AMD ThreadRipper 2920X
Motherboard:
Asus ROG Zenith Extreme
RAM:
8x8 Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO @ 3600MHz
VGA & cooler:
MSI RTX 2080Ti
Display:
3x Acer Predator 27"
HDD:
2x Samsung 970Pro 1TB + 2xSamsung 850Pro 2TB
Sound:
Integrale
Case:
Phanteks Evolv X
PSU:
Corsair HX1200i
Optical drives:
LOL
Mice & keyboard:
Razer Blackwidow Chroma + Razer Mamba TE
Internet:
Orion 1Gbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 10
Other:
Alienware R13 R3
Sredite malo gramatiku.

1. Are you planning to reorganize CCC?

Version 8 of ATi CCC was uglier than version 9, but some options were more user friendly. First example that comes to mind is GPU picture scaling (stretching to screen edges while keeping ratio). That option in version 8 was easy to find, and use. In version 9 that option is hard to find, and use.

2. Will forcing of AA modes that always work, be enabled?

When you force AA from CCC it is supposed to stay on. It is like some games are not supported from the driver. I.e. Borderlands is using UT3 engine, and forced AA does not work. When you rename exe file from borderlands.exe to ut3.exe, forced AA works.

3. Are the problems that have been detected by HD5xxx series users results of hardware or software issues.

4. Profiles and shimmering?

Are you planning to make profiles same as nVIDIA? By that we mean, will there be specific profiles for different games (different clocks, AA, AF settings). At the moment you need to manually change those settings, which makes things harder.

Are you going to solve shimmering problems with old games?

5. Are you planning automatic 3D clock activation for windowed applications

At the moment when you start a game in windowed mode, card does not automatically set up 3D clock.

6. Are you planning to make sideport available on the X2 cards sometime in the future?

5970 and 4870X2 havedirect connection between GPUs which is not enabled through drivers.

7. Will Catalyst in the future be able to balance load in CFX regimes?

If we stared two applications that are using GPU simultaneously and we have a X2 card or aCF/CFX setup could driver run each application on a different GPU?

8. Will AVIVO video converting be improved in the future?

Are you planning to improve converting quality and speed? Will AVIVO support multiple GPUs.

9. Will ATi Stream have the same progression as CUDA?

Many programmers share opinion that support for STREAM programming is much worse than support for CUDA. Currently there is more software support for CUDA than for STREAM.
FIXED :d
 
Poslednja izmena od urednika:

animaN

Administrator
Urednik
Učlanjen(a)
28.03.2009.
Poruka
9.400
Rezultat reagovanja
102
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Ci7 3930K@ Coolink CoratorDS
Motherboard:
ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
RAM:
4x4GB Mushkin 1600 MHz cl9, 1.5V
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire HD6950 FleX Edition
Display:
3x Belinea 102035W
HDD:
Corsair ForceGT 120GB SSD,WD AAKS 640 GB, WD MyBook 500GB
Sound:
Realtek ALC889 - Logitech Z2300
Case:
Cooler Master bench table
PSU:
Cooler Master Silent Pro 850W
Optical drives:
USB LiteOn
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G15 - Logitech MX518
Internet:
SBB 10/1 Mbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 7 x64 SP1
Other:
Volim AXE
Ljudi,

Kakva god gramatika bila mislim da su pitanja totalno jasna :) Ako mislite da treba josh neshto da se doda, slobodno recite!

:sekira:
 

voodoons

Moderator
Učlanjen(a)
06.04.2009.
Poruka
7.944
Rezultat reagovanja
140
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
voodoons’s MacBook Pro
CPU & cooler:
Intel Core i5
Motherboard:
MacBookPro12,1
RAM:
8 GB
VGA & cooler:
Intel Iris Graphics 6100
Display:
Retina LCD 13"
HDD:
APPLE SSD SM0128G
Sound:
Apple Inc
Mice & keyboard:
Lenovo BT Laser Mouse
Internet:
SBB 70/4 Mb/s
OS & Browser:
OS X 10.11.6
Other:
Iphone 6
One more..
Hoce li noviji drajveri imati poboljsan uninstaler? Da ne moramo vise koristiti razne Cleaner alatke ne bi li izbrisali tragove starih drajvera u sistemu..
 

bRkA

PCAXE Member
Učlanjen(a)
18.06.2009.
Poruka
91
Rezultat reagovanja
1
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
chudo
CPU & cooler:
4770k / 4.5GHz / Auto Volt.
Motherboard:
ASUS Maximus VI Hero
RAM:
2x4Gb Patriot Performance / 8-9-8-24-1T
VGA & cooler:
PC 7870xt MYST
Display:
Samsung 39" LED F5000
HDD:
Intel 335/240Gb + WD Caviar Blue 1Tb
Sound:
Integrated
Case:
Cgieftec AEGIS BX
PSU:
Cooler Master Real Power M 620w Modular
Optical drives:
OptiArc 7200s
Mice & keyboard:
Steelseries SENSEI / Dell RT50
Internet:
Telekom vDSL2 50/10Mbps
OS & Browser:
Win7 Ultimate x64

Shiki

PCAXE OC team
Učlanjen(a)
01.04.2009.
Poruka
1.609
Rezultat reagovanja
1
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
.
RAM:
4GB DDR3 1066MHz
Display:
LG LC55 42"
HDD:
Kingston V+ 128GB|WD GREEN 1TB (Icy Box)| 160GB WD Passport
Sound:
Logitech Z5500
Mice & keyboard:
Apple Magic Mouse|Apple Wireless Keyboard
Internet:
Cable 8096/384
OS & Browser:
Snow Leopard 10.6.6 :)
Other:
Macbook White Unibody
To je prva stvar koju prifacam :d , ne znam shta mi bi to da napishem :d , ovo ostalo je sviranje onoj stvari, vrlo je bitno da pitanja budu koncizna i da se razume shta je pisac hteo da kaze. Detalji na koji su ona napisana su toliko nebitni u celj prici da je to zlo ;)

:wave:
 

peja81

Moderator
Učlanjen(a)
08.05.2009.
Poruka
9.668
Rezultat reagovanja
2.040
Moja konfiguracija
Jos jedno pitanje bi moglo da se doda, a to je da li planiraju da ubace podrsku za dekodiranje L5.1 HD ripova, sa vecim brojem referentnih frejmova nego sto standardi nalazu, da bi i takav materijal mogao da se pusta preko DXVA. Nvidia je to poodavno omogucila kroz drajvere.
 

animaN

Administrator
Urednik
Učlanjen(a)
28.03.2009.
Poruka
9.400
Rezultat reagovanja
102
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Ci7 3930K@ Coolink CoratorDS
Motherboard:
ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
RAM:
4x4GB Mushkin 1600 MHz cl9, 1.5V
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire HD6950 FleX Edition
Display:
3x Belinea 102035W
HDD:
Corsair ForceGT 120GB SSD,WD AAKS 640 GB, WD MyBook 500GB
Sound:
Realtek ALC889 - Logitech Z2300
Case:
Cooler Master bench table
PSU:
Cooler Master Silent Pro 850W
Optical drives:
USB LiteOn
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G15 - Logitech MX518
Internet:
SBB 10/1 Mbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 7 x64 SP1
Other:
Volim AXE
Jel ima josh neko neshto da doda?

:sekira:
 

CooLa

I didn't ask for this
Učlanjen(a)
02.03.2009.
Poruka
1.277
Rezultat reagovanja
55
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
Mainframe
CPU & cooler:
AMD ThreadRipper 2920X
Motherboard:
Asus ROG Zenith Extreme
RAM:
8x8 Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO @ 3600MHz
VGA & cooler:
MSI RTX 2080Ti
Display:
3x Acer Predator 27"
HDD:
2x Samsung 970Pro 1TB + 2xSamsung 850Pro 2TB
Sound:
Integrale
Case:
Phanteks Evolv X
PSU:
Corsair HX1200i
Optical drives:
LOL
Mice & keyboard:
Razer Blackwidow Chroma + Razer Mamba TE
Internet:
Orion 1Gbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 10
Other:
Alienware R13 R3
Kada planiraju malo da srede numeraciju grafičkih.
 

animaN

Administrator
Urednik
Učlanjen(a)
28.03.2009.
Poruka
9.400
Rezultat reagovanja
102
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Ci7 3930K@ Coolink CoratorDS
Motherboard:
ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
RAM:
4x4GB Mushkin 1600 MHz cl9, 1.5V
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire HD6950 FleX Edition
Display:
3x Belinea 102035W
HDD:
Corsair ForceGT 120GB SSD,WD AAKS 640 GB, WD MyBook 500GB
Sound:
Realtek ALC889 - Logitech Z2300
Case:
Cooler Master bench table
PSU:
Cooler Master Silent Pro 850W
Optical drives:
USB LiteOn
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G15 - Logitech MX518
Internet:
SBB 10/1 Mbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 7 x64 SP1
Other:
Volim AXE
Shta istoj fali?
 

MegaSkot

PCAXE Addicted
Učlanjen(a)
02.04.2009.
Poruka
2.606
Rezultat reagovanja
7
Moja konfiguracija
"Da li planirate jednom, prvi put od osnivanja ATI-ja, da zaposlite programere koji su u stanju da napišu ispravne drivere"? :cool:
 

animaN

Administrator
Urednik
Učlanjen(a)
28.03.2009.
Poruka
9.400
Rezultat reagovanja
102
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Ci7 3930K@ Coolink CoratorDS
Motherboard:
ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
RAM:
4x4GB Mushkin 1600 MHz cl9, 1.5V
VGA & cooler:
Sapphire HD6950 FleX Edition
Display:
3x Belinea 102035W
HDD:
Corsair ForceGT 120GB SSD,WD AAKS 640 GB, WD MyBook 500GB
Sound:
Realtek ALC889 - Logitech Z2300
Case:
Cooler Master bench table
PSU:
Cooler Master Silent Pro 850W
Optical drives:
USB LiteOn
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech G15 - Logitech MX518
Internet:
SBB 10/1 Mbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 7 x64 SP1
Other:
Volim AXE
"Da li planirate jednom, prvi put od osnivanja ATI-ja, da zaposlite programere koji su u stanju da napišu ispravne drivere"? :cool:
Boze koliko je ovo originalno i konstruktivno pitanje! NOT!


P.S. Evo sada znate kako se pravi "NOT joke" :D
 

CooLa

I didn't ask for this
Učlanjen(a)
02.03.2009.
Poruka
1.277
Rezultat reagovanja
55
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
Mainframe
CPU & cooler:
AMD ThreadRipper 2920X
Motherboard:
Asus ROG Zenith Extreme
RAM:
8x8 Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO @ 3600MHz
VGA & cooler:
MSI RTX 2080Ti
Display:
3x Acer Predator 27"
HDD:
2x Samsung 970Pro 1TB + 2xSamsung 850Pro 2TB
Sound:
Integrale
Case:
Phanteks Evolv X
PSU:
Corsair HX1200i
Optical drives:
LOL
Mice & keyboard:
Razer Blackwidow Chroma + Razer Mamba TE
Internet:
Orion 1Gbit
OS & Browser:
Windows 10
Other:
Alienware R13 R3
M

Misko78

Guest
Sideport ne postoji na 5970 pa neka se to izbaci kao pitanje.

Dodati pitanje:

"It is already possible to easily overclock graphic cards based on your GPUs using third party applications or bios editing. If we have that information why don't you finally allow full overclock potential through CCC."
 

greatgonzo

PCAXE Member
Učlanjen(a)
30.10.2009.
Poruka
557
Rezultat reagovanja
81
Moja konfiguracija
CPU & cooler:
Ryzen 2600X + Megahalems x2 Coolink Swif2 120P
Motherboard:
Asus PRIME A320M-K
RAM:
Patriot Viper Steel 4000 MHz
VGA & cooler:
Asus ROG STRIX-RX470-O4G-GAMING
Display:
Samsung LS27C750PS
HDD:
Samsung SSD 860 EVO 250Gb + Intel SSD 2500pro 512 + 1,5 Tb Samsung HD154UI +2Tb Seagate BarraCuda
Sound:
Teratec AureonXFIRE 8.0 HD
Case:
Master Case 5
PSU:
Corsair RM750i
Optical drives:
LG GH22NS30
Mice & keyboard:
Logitech M-RAK89D + Y-RK49
Internet:
SBB 10240/1024
OS & Browser:
Windows 7 x64 sp1 FF&Crome
Other:
xubuntu
Bravo Miško78 , ja imam kartu koja ladno ide sa 720 na 820 a memorija sa 900 na preko 1000 ( nisam detaljno testirao ) . Mislim da su im ove overklok margine beskorisne jer niti koriste pun potencijal hardvera niti će to nekoga da spreči da overklokuje .
 

voodoons

Moderator
Učlanjen(a)
06.04.2009.
Poruka
7.944
Rezultat reagovanja
140
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
voodoons’s MacBook Pro
CPU & cooler:
Intel Core i5
Motherboard:
MacBookPro12,1
RAM:
8 GB
VGA & cooler:
Intel Iris Graphics 6100
Display:
Retina LCD 13"
HDD:
APPLE SSD SM0128G
Sound:
Apple Inc
Mice & keyboard:
Lenovo BT Laser Mouse
Internet:
SBB 70/4 Mb/s
OS & Browser:
OS X 10.11.6
Other:
Iphone 6
Ja sam takodje za ukidanje tih margina, pogotovu sto sa tim ne moze ni da naskodi nesto hardveru.
@greatgonzo, :welcome: back
 
Poslednja izmena:

Villy

PCAXE Addicted
Učlanjen(a)
08.08.2009.
Poruka
1.717
Rezultat reagovanja
5
Moja konfiguracija
PC / Laptop Name:
Toshiba i5 6200U, GTX930M, 16GB, 256GB SSD
CPU & cooler:
i5 6600K + EKWB Predator 240
Motherboard:
AsRock Z170 Extreme 4
RAM:
16GB@2400 DDR4 Kingston Black Fury
VGA & cooler:
Gigabyte GTX1060 OC 6G
Display:
BenQ 2420HDB + Sony 55x8507 4K, Android,
HDD:
Samsung 850 Evo 128+Green 2TB+ 2x Green 1TB
Sound:
Xonar DSX+4562OP AMP+XonarU7+Altec MX5021+Microlab SOLO 6C
Case:
MS black widow
PSU:
Thermaltake 730W modular
Optical drives:
Samsung Full black
Mice & keyboard:
Razor Mamba+Chroma
Internet:
ADSL
OS & Browser:
Win10
Other:
BMW Series 4 M package 2015, Note 5, DeskJet 4530, Oppo HA2 DAC + Kef M500, PS4 Pro
Prednosti 6k serije nad 5om generacijom niko ne pominje, ili ovom pitanju nije mesto ovde?
 

Lukija

PCAXE Eminent Guru
Učlanjen(a)
13.04.2009.
Poruka
2.564
Rezultat reagovanja
0
Moja konfiguracija
Procitah malo pre animaN-ov post pa me interesuje ima li kakvih novosti sto se tice interview-a?
 
Vrh