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koji ssd bih trebao uzeti od ova dva

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Kingston A400 Čitanje : 500MB/s / Upis : 450MB/s

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Brzina čitanja/pisanja 550/520MB/s


oba ssd su slicne cene oko 67e samo sto kingstonov ima skoro duplo vecu memoriju (480gb) a samsung (250gb) ali je brzi.Treba mi pomoc u vezi kupovine jednog od ova dva ssd.Gledao sam test ova dva ssd i samsungov je brzi za 3 sec kada je u pitanju paljenje racunara,ali bi meni vise odgovarao mozda ovaj kingstonov jer imam u planu da ustedim na hard disku (da ga uopste ne kupim) a jedan ssd od 480gb mi pokriva sve.
 

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Kingston A400 se pokazao kao los SSD. Dosta se cesto kvari. Mnogo bolja varijanta je UV500 a kapacitet sam izaberi po potrebi.

Model od 480GB je trenutno 67,5 evra preko naseg prodavca sa KP. ako ne znas ko je u pitanju dobices link na PM. Samsung 860 EVO 500Gb trenutna cena 85 evra. Da li je isplativa razlika? Po meni da. Samsung je ipak No1 za SSD a i dobijas dodatno 20gb.
 

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Ako novac nije problem onda Samsung. UV serija se pokazala odlicno takodje, tako da slobodno mozes uzeti Kingstona.
 

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Od ta dva prva navedena uzmi Samsung, taj Kingston A400 je lose uradjen
 

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Da li hoćeš da uštediš ili trenutno ne možeš da uložiš više novca u bolji i veći ssd?
U svakom slučaju, iznad mog komentara si dobio dobre odgovore, ali i tvoje pitanje ima samo jedan uvek dobar odgovor: ne kupuj Kingston seriju A400.
 

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Ja bas imam A400, zasad radi kako treba. Ne znam po cemu su losi?

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Jesi li skinuo softver sa podrške za Kingston? Da li si proveravao stanje (zdravlje) tog ssd-a?
 

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Zdravlje je na 95% preko Kingston ssd menadzera. Ssd je kupljen krajem septembra.

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Kod mog ssd je zdravlje 99%, kupljen u oktobru 2017., upisao preko 8.7 TB.
 

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Na nasem forumu na slovo B su mi preporucili taj ssd kao zgodan za sata 2 pc. U to vreme je A400 bio 3200 din i u rangu od 3 do 4.000 din on je imao najvise preporuka. Bilo je reci da ima boljih po pitanju nekih kontrolera i brzina upisa ali nije bilo ni jednog posta da A400 brzo crkava/kvari se.

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moj samsung 840 evo ima 83% health i ima preko 23TB pisanja :D
 

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@Novatech : to može da znači da se tek pojavio lii da ljudi nisu imali puno iskustva sa time. Na dva foruma koja pratim ubrzo je A400 serija izašla na loš glas.
@Fakku : možda imaš premalo prostora, pa na neke pozicije češće upisuje i kvari ih?
 

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@Novatech : to može da znači da se tek pojavio lii da ljudi nisu imali puno iskustva sa time. Na dva foruma koja pratim ubrzo je A400 serija izašla na loš glas.
@Fakku : možda imaš premalo prostora, pa na neke pozicije češće upisuje i kvari ih?
ma jok, ssd health nije kao i hdd health.
health na ssd-u ti je kao tajmer, kada health dodje na 0 to znaci da nema vise ni jedne slobodne celije na koju moze da se pise.

HDDs and SSDs age very differently.

HDD's are 'just' monitoring various attributes like spin up time, temps, various counts, damaged sectors etc. If these are all normal then it's 100%, but it could fail tomorrow, with no further warning. They are just indicators that we know when they go bad the drive is likely to have a problem.

SSD's monitor some of these same things, but also they are known to have a limited number of write cycles per flash cell, depending on the architecture 1,500-10,000 (10,000 is impossible to buy now). The controller takes account of how much spare capacity it has to replace worn out cells, how much writing has occurred, and it knows that it has used up n% of it's rated ability to write data. This is what is likely to be the cause of your reduced percentage.

Reading the HDD 79% i'd be worried, it'll mean lots of bad sectors and something that it deteriorating.

Reading the same 79% on an SSD i'd not be at all worried as it's just telling me that you can use it for 5x longer than you already have before it runs out of the ability to write. Assuming this is solely a write problem i'd be happy taking it down to 10%, or as a storage drive 5%, with a HDD i'd be swapping it at 90% ish.

Given it is solid state this is the only 'wear' that occurs, and it is predictable and the drives are built to manage it, for HDD's it's not very predictable and nothing can be done to manage it.
 

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@Fakku : znam da nije, ali hvala na objašnjenju i lepom citatu!
 
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